britfrog 180 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 There is no doubt by posting this , i will get a hostile reception from some, but I have to say from my experience Al Jazeera gives a very balanced opinion on a lot of issues that I have seen them report on in the past, Perhaps that is why the likes of David Frost worked for them? I have a friend who has moved from seattle to work in charleston , he was fed up with losing money because the unions were too strong in seattle so he had a very nice handshake to move across the US.. However without putting too fine a point on it he has expressed his unhappiness to me with the situ in NC much along the same lines as this interview does, but he has drunk from the poison chalice so there is no going back for him. whether you accept this investigation as being 100% correct or not , there is no doubt that there isnt smoke where there is no fire and a lot of the opinions especially those about the boardroom manoevres hold water.. Personally i have been disturbed since the battery issue came to light and was not in my opinion addressed correctly, they should have gone back to lead/acid batteries which have served us for so many years , Airbus has done just that with the A350 having seen what has happened to the dreamliner. All we can do now is watch and wait, and hopefully there will not be an unhappy ending. Link to post Share on other sites
jaydor 345 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Just watched that Nigel, and my conclusion is that I will only fly with the 787 on a simulator and not in real life. So we can soon see a disaster with this aircraft and cover up upon cover up until the next one and the next finally exposes the truth.. Thank you for posting.. Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Being a retired pilot i would like to think i am above listening to heresay etc, I used to fly Boeing 727's and they were very well made. the point that someone makes in the video that quality/safety has become a secondary consideration to schedule/profits is a scary precedent especially when you combine that with the factual problems of the battery installation. I am very concerned because as a pilot we are taught to be able to cope with one problem when flying even though it increases the work load but if you have say 3 problems that you are nursing, then you are no longer able to aviate correctly, and that is when accidents happen. We have all taken courses in accident awareness as pilots and recognising how things can stack up against you, but IMHO what Boeing is doing is flying in the face of common sense. Given the choice I would not willingly fly in one of these planes , as they have already had a very close call with a boeing test flight full of boeing staff going seriously boss eyed and they only just got that on the ground, more by luck than judgement, and now it appears as it was a test flight it is not subject to the normal investigation that a serious emergency like they had would be subject to had it been a sceduled flight. As I said earlier I have an uneasiness about this a/c and I pray I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
hifly 925 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nigel, I haven't had time to view the doc but will agree with you on Al Jazeeras' balance on world news. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,498 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Good documentary, I think the attitude of the workforce at Charlston is no typical if you are paying low rates, they have no pride in their work. Not good to see considering the thousands who trust their lives in the 787. Thankfully the Dreamliner I am flying on next May was build at Everett. Does a parachute count as hand baggage? Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I happened across this old thread and had a look to see how the 787 has panned out so far. Almost 600 built to date. No serious problems or accidents that I'm aware of since the FAA battery issue grounding was lifted following re-design of the system. They started flying again in April 2013, I believe, over a year before this article was written. I think I recall that there was one fire, above a galley, that turned out not to be related to the earlier battery issues. It's not exactly raining Dreamliners so far, so I guess they must be doing something right in Charleston after all. John Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,498 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Lovely aircraft to fly in, and we're flying the Dream next year too As usual, the sensationalist press blew it up out of all proportion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 The A350 now has lithium-ion batteries and has done for about a year at least now. Airbus took a bit more time to protect the battery following the 787 issues 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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