allardjd 1,853 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 When I started me PC today, a Steam update window appeared automatically and cycled through its process for some time. Now my classic FSX won't start - it fails with a fatal error before the first menu comes up, but of course FSX-SE starts and runs just fine. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm the suspicious type. I'm thinking something in their update probably is affecting my other FSX. Does anyone have any idea what I can try to fix this? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J G 926 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Too much of a coincidence John. Have you looked through FSX standard for files dated the day of the upgrade? JG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corsaire31 419 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I use Steam every day for other games (with auto updates) and never had any interaction with my FSX so far ( I also have FSX Steam downloaded but not in use ) They are not on the same HD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stu7708 244 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I seriously doubt the issue is connected to the update of Steam. The window that pops up when Steam starts is just an update for the Steam Client, not for the games, so no FSX files, neither Legacy of SE, should have been touched by it. Game updates are downloaded and applied in the background. The only way of seeing that a game is being updated is by seeing a download in progress in the Steam Client. Could it be a dodgy windows update installed during the same startup, or do you have those turned off? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 This Steam update came in as soon as the machine booted, not when starting any application. I do have windows (Win7-64) automatic updates set on. FSX-SE starts continues to start and run fine but MS FSX dies with a fatal error before the first menu shows up. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wain 879 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I use steam for other stuff...it does auto update the steam part and amy games attached to it... however for me it has no effect on fsx classic... are you sure nothing else has changed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stu7708 244 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 This Steam update came in as soon as the machine booted, not when starting any application. I do have windows (Win7-64) automatic updates set on. FSX-SE starts continues to start and run fine but MS FSX dies with a fatal error before the first menu shows up. John Unless you specifically tell it not to Steam starts as part of the boot up sequence, so the Steam update popped up when windows automatically launched Steam for you. Any error messages in the Windows logs?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 921 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 John, I agree with the coincidence factor as there is nothing a Steam client update can do to affect FSX and cause it to stop working. Have you tried the obvious of deleting your fsx.cfg file and letting it rebuild itself on FSX startup? Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Have you tried the obvious of deleting your fsx.cfg file and letting it rebuild itself on FSX startup? Yes, tried that right away - no joy. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 921 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes, tried that right away - no joy. John Some time back (quite some time), I seem to recall something similar with my FSX installation. Now I'm scratching my head to remember what I did to remedy it. If I am having any issues with FSX, I will also do some basic computer maintenance, particularly a defrag of the HDD. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,426 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Is it too late to use a restore point from the last known time FSX was working? Also, if you go to uninstall FSX isn't there a repair option if you try? Cheers, Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I think the repair option is a good idea and will try that. I haven't had much time to fool with it lately and FSX-SE is working OK so not an urgent project at the moment. Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 921 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 John, Another thought I just had. Try deleting the logbook file. Sometimes a corrupt logbook file can cause start-up problems with FSX. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 921 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 John, These two links might be of some further insight or assistance. Forgive me for pointing you there. http://www.avsim.com/topic/441861-fsx-fatal-error-on-startup-also-need-help-decoding-appcrashview/ http://www.avsim.com/files/file/65-avsim-crash-to-desktop-guide-for-fsx-p3d-fs9/ Cheers Andrew 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It's OK, Andrew - I'll just hold my nose. John 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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