gavoon1 19 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Yes its me again back with the problem that I have been facing for around 3 months... This has really upset me as night flying is fun and there is nothing like being on approach with some night 3D orbs in vast quantity which is a feeling I haven't felt in a very long time. Now whats the problem? I re-install FSX se and in doing that I had to re-install FTX global. Now to note I operated windows 8.1 and then upgraded to windows 10 with no issues. I hadn't done much night flying ( That I remember ). Point is that I am not sure whether the upgrade to windows 10 is the issue however no one has reported anything similar to mine in the large amount of research that I have done. The issue is that I do NOT get much night lighting within FSX SE, I get mostly long highways lighten with the FTX orbs but nothing else which looks rather gross. In highly vegetated cities or villages like Vancouver light looks better for some reason. Cities like London, Munich, LA, Sidney and list goes on look really bad. I have even tried product like TABURET which look good but cost more money and have severe performance impact ( In london I received 1 frame with Taburet) Main Points: Not much night lighting Only big highways are light Not sure whether upgrade to windows 10 effected anything Autogene maxed out I have FTX light installed Now I would really appreciate and ideas support and I haven't received much or any, to have an answer to this issue or even better a fix would mean the world to me! Link to post Share on other sites
hlminx 301 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) Hi Gavin I think there are a few posts on the Hangar at the moment with regard to ORBX Global. I'm just in the process of reinstalling upwards from Windows7 after all sorts of problems with Global and Vector. Their complexity and sensitivity to the order in the scenery library seems to be the root of a lot of problems unfortunately I don't know enough about how the layering would affect the lighting.. I suppose it's possible; I'm sure some of the Hangar guys will know. For me, the long winded and rather painful route of starting again is the only way to guarantee a stable base to my system. I would only suggest it as a last resort though...for obvious reasons. Have you posted to the Orbx forums? They should be able to help with the Win10 side. Did they give you any explanation? Hope some of the other guys on here can offer some sound advice on your particular issue and things get resolved for you. Edited June 12, 2016 by hlminx Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 9 out of 10 the issue you guys describing should be found in terrain.cfg, Gavin have a look in your terrain.cfg file for errors, if you have no idea wait to look for; post it here ill have a look at it, Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 almost forgot, orbx lights are controlled by tree and not autogen slider! they run their lights as landclass tree's! Link to post Share on other sites
hlminx 301 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 45 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: almost forgot, orbx lights are controlled by tree and not autogen slider! they run their lights as landclass tree's! Interesting... didn't know that! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 terrain cfg just the landclasse part do you need more) and why would that make a difference if the lighting is under landclass?: [LandClasses] OCEAN_SEA_LARGE_LAKE_0=0 LARGE_CITY_URBAN_GRID_WET_1=1 LOW_SPARSE_GRASSLAND=2 CONIFEROUS_FOREST=3 DECIDUOUS_CONIFER_FOREST=4 DECIDUOUS_BROADLEAF_FOREST=5 EVERGREEN_BROADLEAF_FORESTS=6 TALL_GRASSES_AND_SHRUBS=7 BARE_DESERT=8 UPLAND_TUNDRA=9 IRRIGATED_GRASSLAND=10 SEMI_DESERT=11 DRY_CROP_AND_TOWN=12 WOODED_WET_SWAMP=13 ORBX_FLOOD_PLAIN_WITH_TUSSOCK_SLOPE=14 ORBX_BRAIDED_RIVER_EW=15 SHRUB_EVERGREEN=16 SHRUB_DECIDUOUS=17 ORBX_LATE_SWITCH_FOREST=18 EVERGREEN_FOREST_AND_FIELDS=19 COOL_RAIN_FOREST=20 CONIFER_BOREAL_FOREST=21 COOL_CONIFER_FOREST=22 COOL_MIXED_FOREST=23 MIXED_FOREST=24 COOL_BROADLEAF_FOREST=25 SOUTHERN_DECIDUOUS_BROADLEAF_FOREST=26 CONIFER_FOREST=27 MONTANE_TROPICAL_FORESTS=28 SEASONAL_TROPICAL_FOREST=29 COOL_CROPS_AND_TOWNS=30 CROPS_AND_TOWN=31 DRY_TROPICAL_WOODS=32 TROPICAL_RAINFOREST=33 TROPICAL_DEGRADED_FOREST=34 CORN_AND_BEANS_CROPLAND=35 RICE_PADDY_AND_FIELD=36 HOT_IRRIGATED_CROPLAND=37 COOL_IRRIGATED_CROPLAND=38 ORBX_TUSSOCK_AND_FEW_TREES=39 COOL_GRASSES_AND_SHRUBS=40 HOT_AND_MILD_GRASSES_AND_SHRUBS=41 COLD_GRASSLAND=42 SAVANNA_WOODS=43 MIRE_BOG_FEN=44 MARSH_WETLAND=45 MEDITERRANEAN_SCRUB=46 DRY_WOODY_SCRUB=47 DRY_EVERGREEN_WOODS=48 ORBX_BRAIDED_RIVER_NS=49 SAND_DESERT=50 SEMI_DESERT_SHRUBS=51 SEMI_DESERT_SAGE=52 BARREN_TUNDRA=53 COOL_SOUTHERN_HEMISPHERE_MIXED_FORESTS=54 COOL_FIELDS_AND_WOODS=55 FOREST_AND_FIELD=56 COOL_FOREST_AND_FIELD=57 FIELDS_AND_WOODY_SAVANNA=58 SUCCULENT_AND_THORN_SCRUB=59 SMALL_LEAF_MIXED_WOODS=60 DECIDUOUS_AND_MIXED_BOREAL_FOREST=61 NARROW_CONIFERS=62 WOODED_TUNDRA=63 HEATH_SCRUB=64 ORBX_INDUSTRIAL_NS=65 ORBX_TOWN_CBD=66 ORBX_OIL_REFINERY=67 ORBX_SUB_REG_NW_SE=68 POLAR_AND_ALPINE_DESERT=69 ORBX_CAR_PARK=70 ORBX_CIRCLE_CROPS=71 MANGROVE=72 ORBX_SCREE_AND_ROCK_NS=73 ORBX_SCREE_AND_ROCK_EW=74 ORBX_SCREE_AND_ROCK_NW_SE=75 CROP_AND_WATER_MIXTURES=76 ORBX_SCREE_AND_ROCK_SW_NE=77 SOUTHERN_HEMISPHERE_MIXED_FOREST=78 ORBX_BRAIDED_RIVER_NW_SE=79 ORBX_BRAIDED_RIVER_SW_NE=80 ORBX_FIELDS_AND_WINDBREAKS_NW-SE=81 ORBX_FIELDS_AND_WOODS_1=82 ORBX_FIELDS_AND_WOODS_NW-SE=83 ORBX_MIXED_TREES_N-S=84 ORBX_MIXED_TREES_NW-SE=85 ORBX_MIXED_TREES_NON-GRID_1=86 ORBX_IRRIGATED_FIELDS_NW-SE=87 ORBX_GREENHOUSES_EU=88 MOIST_EUCALYPTUS=89 RAIN_GREEN_TROPICAL_FOREST=90 WOODY_SAVANNA=91 BROADLEAF_CROPS=92 GRASS_CROPS=93 CROPS_GRASS_SHRUBS=94 GRASS_SKIRTING_1=95 GRASS_SKIRTING_2=96 GRASS_AND_SHRUB_SKIRTING=97 DRY_GRASS_AND_DIRT_SKIRTING=98 SAND_AND_DESERT_SKIRTING=99 OCEAN_SEA_LARGE_LAKE=100 LARGE_CITY_URBAN_GRID_WET=101 LARGE_CITY_URBAN_GRID_DRY=102 LARGE_CITY_URBAN_NON_GRID_WET=103 LARGE_CITY_URBAN_NON_GRID_DRY=104 MEDIUM_CITY_URBAN_GRID_WET=105 MEDIUM_CITY_URBAN_GRID_DRY=106 MEDIUM_CITY_URBAN_NON_GRID_WET=107 MEDIUM_CITY_URBAN_NON_GRID_DRY=108 LARGE_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_WET=109 LARGE_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_DRY=110 LARGE_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_WET=111 LARGE_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_DRY=112 MEDIUM_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_WET=113 MEDIUM_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_DRY=114 MEDIUM_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_WET=115 MEDIUM_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_DRY=116 SMALL_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_WET=117 SMALL_CITY_SUBURBAN_GRID_DRY=118 SMALL_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_WET=119 SMALL_CITY_SUBURBAN_NON_GRID_DRY=120 LARGE_CITY_HIGHRISE=121 ICE=122 INLAND_WATER=123 OCEAN_INLET=124 NON_PERENNIAL_INLAND_WATER=125 NON_PERENNIAL_INLAND_SEA=126 REEF=127 GRASS=128 ARID=129 ROCK=130 DIRT=131 CORAL=132 LAVA=133 PARK=134 GOLF_COURSE=135 CEMENT=136 TAN_SAND_BEACH=137 BLACK_SAND_BEACH=138 AIRFIELD1=139 AIRFIELD2=140 ROCK_VOLCANIC=141 ROCK_ICE=142 GLACIER_ICE=143 EVERGREEN_TREE_CROP=144 DECIDUOUS_TREE_CROP=145 DESERT_ROCK=146 SAVANNA_GRASS=147 NON_MOUNTAIN_ROCK=148 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 the file itself! Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 sorry your gonna have to explain further Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Gavin, do you use a translator when you visit this site? Link to post Share on other sites
wain 879 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 23 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: Gavin, do you use a translator when you visit this site? You always manage to make me chuckle... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sometimes, could you give me a little more detail what you need and how I do it, in regards to terrain cfg. Do i need to change some values for more lights? Link to post Share on other sites
needles 1,010 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hey Gavin, There should be a whole load more data in your terrain.cfg file, so it's the whole file that Chris is talking about. If you post the whole terrain.cfg he could look at it for any errors or anomalies that may be present. Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Gavin, exactly what Brian said! please post your actual cfg file (don't paste the content, put the file somewhere where it can be physically downloaded to any machine), 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,283 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, gavoon1 said: Sometimes, could you give me a little more detail what you need and how I do it, in regards to terrain cfg. Do i need to change some values for more lights? Go online and find a dropbox service like Box.net or other, take your file and upload it to the site and post the share link here so Chris can download it. One other note, the folks here give their free time to help you, words like please and thank you go a long way. An internet search will show you that Win10 will indeed break things, especially when it comes to FSX. Continued delete and reinstalls will not help unless you make sure all the files are deleted, some files are placed outside the FSX folder. Also you need to read up on each addon so that they are installed properly and in the correct order. If your postings for help have not been answered it is because no one has seen or found the problem you have posted and it takes time to figure it out. If anyone can figure out your lighting problems it would be Chris the author of Night Environment so be concise and clear in your responses to his questions. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Link to Terrain.cfg https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipi14kfeiw79kek/terrain.cfg?dl=0 I sorry I really appreciate your support, but English is not my first language. Edited June 16, 2016 by gavoon1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thank you Gavin, i checked your file; you had some errors there i fixed for you, you can grab it here -http://www.mediafire.com/download/1jybxuowkheonbu/terrain.cfg now the issue you're having is mainly because you're missing the whole whole autogen section FTX usually adds to terrain.cfg, you have the texture portion; but the autogen section is still only default entries; which also explains why you don't see any autogen objects! i believe you didn't install ORBX libraries as required after each update or new package installation! download and install this package https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0By8a-7jAShVrNzF6S0FWbjNTM3M for more info go here https://www.fullterrain.com/support find the word "Orbx Libraries" on that page and read the information posted there, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Do I take the terrain cfg that you gave me and replace the old with new? If I install those libraries will it add lights and the autogene stuff you are talking about and fix the problem? I really Appreciate your support, the speed and the work you have done... My hat is off for you folks Edited June 16, 2016 by gavoon1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 you're very welcome Gavin, yes use the terrain.cfg i posted for you; overwrite the one you currently use, then run the file from the second link (its latest orbx libraries); i believe you should see what you're expecting afterwards, the entries missing in your current cfg file will be added, as well other files required for normal operation with all their products, Link to post Share on other sites
needles 1,010 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hurrah! Well done Chris, this is looking like a result for Gavin. Good luck Gavin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Can I just drop the terrain.cfg in my FSX main directory or is there specific place it needs to go within FSX? Got a error message when I ran FSX saying my terrain folder is damaged or missing but its in the FSX directory Edited June 16, 2016 by gavoon1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 you need to place it back in the same place you originally had it in, (im not sure which platform you're on FSX or FSXSE) you're original file is still posted here so you can always go back to it to see if the error persist, is that where it is located when you get this error now? did you install ORBX libraries yet? note: during install evaluation if for some reason your install is deemed illegal copy; ORBX will proactively delete these entries and their files! it is important that you have all your registration information entered correctly to avoid such mishaps, Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I have FSX SE and I deleted the old and dropped the new into FSX main directory... I installed the new libs to dont see a difference i still see default building and no more night lights. Did I do something wrong? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 im not sure; can you post your cfg again pls, which product/s do you own from their line? Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 just ftx global, here is the old cfg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipi14kfeiw79kek/terrain.cfg?dl=0 And i installed the libraries things look ok in the orbx folder within fsx se Cheers G 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 the old file is still posted here; i need the current cfg to see if any changed omitted after orbx library install, Link to post Share on other sites
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