rob16584 42 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ok guys, give this one a go Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I worked for a time as volunteer at Brooklands Museum Weybridge, where this aircraft was conceived, along with many other world leading aircraft. All of which were vandalized by stupid politicians. A world leading industry that could have employed thousands was recklessly thrown away. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, but I would have personally pulled the trigger on those responsible. One interesting object at this museum is a wind tunnel model (which can be seen http://www.flickr.com/photos/noj-johnson/5138683651/ ) From a better view it looks almost exactly like an F-111, except the engine intakes are square like the Tornado and not rounded as on the F-111. The advanced swing wing design for this model, which had no name, just a number, was shared with the Americans, who subsequently produced the F-111 from it, Issues arose with the aircraft with it suffering engine flameouts and as a result the engine intakes had to be redesigned. The old boys at Brooklands who worked on the project stated that if square intakes were used, no such issues would have arisen. I don't know if that is correct, but the swing wing Tornado didn't have such issues! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 One of two experimental aircraft produced, that first flew in 1984. They were built from the airframe of an existing well known fighter. They tested a forward-swept wing, canard control surfaces, and other novel aircraft technologies. The aerodynamic instability of this arrangement increased agility but required the use of computerized fly-by-wire control. Composite materials were used to control the aeroelastic divergent twisting experienced by forward-swept wings. But that's as much as I am saying and someone else can name exactly what it is. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 It seems flipping the image hasn't helped confuse anyone ! Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Am I right in thinking the cockpit and nose section came from an F5A? Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Exactly correct, Alan. In fact, the entire forward fuselage and nose landing gear, with the control surface actuators and main landing gear coming from the F-16. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I know exactly what it is but will let someone else take it. Suffice to say they certainly raided lots of other companies parts bins when they built it! Anything to keep costs down! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I know exactly what it is..... You're kidding, aren't you? Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think we all know what it is. Who's going to say it? John Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 It seems flipping the image hasn't helped confuse anyone ! Rob, We're all flipped as it is, so that was never going to work. I'm all for you having another shot. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'll leave it running for the rest of the day. If no-one has taken it by the time I get back this evening I'll post another Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Oh for goodness sake! I will say it then! Grumman X-29. .......I think :~ Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Haha over to you john Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ok, try this one Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Mielec PZL M-15 - The only Agricultural jet ever made. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Got a lovely one of those in the sim! Very strange beast! Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Over to you John Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Looks like it was rode hard and put away wet. John Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ok, how about this..... Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I know what it is, I know where it is, but as I'm prone to getting these i'll leave it in the f8 of someone else to awnser! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Alan, That was my first thought as well, but I'm not so sure after a detailed look at various other photos. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It seems to link to one of your own photos Andrew! Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 C'mon guys have a stab at it. Nail your colours to the mast, if you get it wrong nobody is going to laugh at you! .....That is Mr Nobody, along with the rest of us Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Could be the meteoric rise in guesswork would leave one prone to a f ate worse than death! Link to post Share on other sites
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