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  1. Saw this magazine cover and thought it fit right in. As noted above, "Elon Musk is having a much higher level of success with kerosene-fueled rockets than he is with battery powered Tesla automobiles despite the fact that building cars isn't exactly rocket science." The problems, of course, are mainly to do with the fact that he's trying to build them without them needing fossil fuel aboard. Other than that his cars aren't trying to do any more than other automobiles already do quite easily, just as well and for a lower price. John
  2. For me, attempting to use the automation would probably be a mistake. My plan would be, a) leave AP engaged for the moment, b) ask the cabin for a second set of eyes/hands in the other seat to assist c) set the transponder to 7700, d) get someone on a radio - on 121.5 if necessary, e) declare emergency and request vectors to a survivable destination airport, f) disengage AP and hand fly per vectors. I think I could fly a heading, maintain an altitude, maintain a directed airspeed, make a gentle descent and/or easy turns, get the gear and flaps out when needed - not to ATP criteria or anything close to it, but probably well enough to not lose control. Trying to enter or edit data into anything more complicated than a radio or a transponder would be a disaster. I understand yoke, trim, throttles, rudder pedals, gear and flap switches, wheel brakes and other basic stuff. I know that "Attitude is Airspeed - Power is Altitude" doesn't work in heavy aircraft. Fooling around with the keypads and blinking lights is almost sure to lead (for me) to unintended consequences. I can follow directions when someone knowledgeable is eventually on the other end of the radio (not the controller - a qualified pilot), but that won't happen for a while. The old saw Aviate - Navigate - Communicate might need the second two switched around because navigating would become a matter of receiving vectors and that requires communications. #1 is still #1 - keep it flying, avoid a stall or overspeed, keep the shiny side up. Pressurization controls would worry me and I'd want expert advice on that before starting a descent. If nothing important is broken on the airplane (yet) and the WX is not too bad, I'd give myself a better than 50% chance. If it's the only game in town, I'll play. John
  3. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-5937033/Could-NON-PILOT-land-airliner-Flight-crew-reveal-answer.html Yeah, I know - it's the Daily Mail, so needs to be taken with a grain 50 Kg bag of salt, but... Speaking for myself, with a lot of simulator experience and a low-time Private Pilot ticket, I think I'd stand a fairly good chance in reasonably decent WX, even from altitude. Hard IMC conditions, heavy turbulence, strong crosswinds, etc. at the destination would seriously hamper my chances, I think, probably to the point of being vanishingly small. That aside, and with an intact AC not suffering from any damage, lost engines, etc. I think I might be able to pull it off. My preference would be to disengage the AP and hand fly with vectors from ATC to a big, wide, near-sea level runway with little crosswind component. I'd need advice on approach speeds, without a doubt and some coaching on spoilers and thrust reversers at touchdown. My biggest in-flight worry would be pressurization controls which I'm completely unfamiliar with and I'm reasonably sure they would need to be dealt with on the way down. It's not something I'd ever wish to happen, but if my sorry arse is the best available choice in the cabin when the need arises, giving it a try is better than any alternatives I can think of. A positive attitude about it might help too. If you think you can, maybe you can. If you think you can't, you're probably doomed. Worst case, of course, would be two flight simmers in the cabin, arguing about who should get the left seat. John
  4. Interesting - they put a General Atomics SkyGuardian drone into the North Atlantic Tracks system to get it across to the Fairford show. Yep - it flew itself there rather than being ferried in the belly of a transport. This is a turboprop powered, advanced version of the MQ-9 Reaper/Predator B series. The FlightRadar 24 screenshot shown in the linked article indicates the flight is from Grand Forks, North Dakota to Fairford and shows 153 knots at about FL 270, over Canada, possibly still in the climb phase fairly early in the flight. This thing was apparently merged into the flow of commercial traffic in the east-bound North Atlantic Tracks System lanes. https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/610992-hybrid-traffic-1st-drone-joins-n-atlantic-commercial-traffic-flow.html#post10194194
  5. New release from BEA... https://flightsafety.org/egyptair-804-crash-update/ This is complicated... Egypt has the lead. The investigation by the Egypt air safety organization, with the assistance of others from elsewhere, determined that they found "traces of explosives" on some of the recovered bodies. That resulted in transferring responsibility for the remainder of the investigation to Egyptian criminal authorities. That was done without releasing a "final" report from the Egyptian air safety authorities, which would have included the input from the assisting organizations. Transferring the investigation responsibility to the Egyptian criminal authorities makes it an all-Egypt show now. BEA has been trying to get the Egyptian air safety org to put out a final report what was known up to the point responsibility was transferred to the criminal authorities. Such a report has not been released - may never be released. BEA has released their own report, now saying that they believe the most plausible explanation given the information they now have from ACARS, the flight recorders and crash debris is a cockpit fire which may have spread rapidly to the rest of the AC. BEA professes to believe this information needs to be in the hands of interested parties in the aviation industry. Note that it's characterized as a favored, possible cause, not a smoking gun. The boys at PPRUNE are quick to point out that if it's "explosives" Egypt and Egyptair are more or less victims, though they could conceivably be criticized for ground-side security lapses. If it's a problem with the aircraft, the owner/operator (Egyptair) may be more complicit. That's all speculation of course but it's an interesting new development in a dormant topic. Given the particulars of the event, i.e. timeline, profile, location, carrier, etc., my suspicious mind has to go with the Egyptians on this one. I still suspect human skullduggery, but neither eventuality is proven and neither might ever be. Either side could be right. John
  6. F-35 is the "low" end of a high-low strategy, along with F-22. It's very similar to the F-15/F-16 high/low mix of a few decades ago except that the production of F-22s was stopped early with too few built. The low end, the F-35, though expensive, is considerably cheaper than the F-22 and is anticipated to be built and sold in much larger numbers. $100 million a pop isn't chump change, but if you want to be able to run with the top-dog pack in the world today, it's not going to be cheap. The idea was to build a relatively small number of the very best available and a large number of cheaper but still very capable siblings. It worked out pretty well for the F-15/F-16 mix. One difference between the F-15/F-16 and F-22/F-35 analogy is that F-22 is not being sold to any overseas customers. There is a proposal under consideration to build an advanced F-22 variant for Japan, but not sure where that stands or if it is a real possibility or not. I think the plan calls for them to be built in Japan if it goes forward, but not sure I'm remembering that correctly. Another difference is that there were no naval versions nor VSTOL versions of the F-16 but there are, of course, of the F-35. John
  7. Clicking "Add-ons" and "FSUIPC" isn't supposed to make anything happen. The fact that you have an "Add-ons" meu bar with "FSUIPC" in it means FSUIPC is installed and running. When FSUIPC is installed correctly, it starts when FS starts and is ready to facilitate communications between FS and other related programs such as Flying School. I don't have Flying School and don't know how you start it and kick it off, but clicking on Add-ons -> FSUIPC is most certainly not the way to get Flying School going. I doubt you need the paid version of FSUIPC - it adds some nifty features but most add-on FS programs only need the basic features of FSUIPC to interface with FS and all that happens in the background. The functionality of FSUIPC with respect to add-on programs is mostly invisible, except for the fact that it allows the the add-on programs to actually work. Read further, but read the documentation for Flying School to see how to get the instructor working. I don't think your problem lies with FSUIPC. Apologies if I've mis-read your problem. John EDIT: Re-reading your original post, it sounds like Flying School is working properly. Not sure what you're expecting FSUIPC to do but if Flying School is running properly, FSUIPC is already doing what it's supposed to be doing, which is allowing one program to trade data and commands with the other. Put another way, FSUIPC is not really a "hands-on" program, though some of the additional features that get turned on with the paid version are more hands-on. JDA
  8. I'd say it worked out fairly well on both sides of the Atlantic. Maybe you were just placing us in ready reserve status in case the Germans got too feisty, which they did, twice. Anyway, it looks like that hatchet has long been buried and I count the UK as one the US' two greatest friends in the world. (The other one? I'm not saying but it lies somewhere south of Lebanon and north of Egypt.) John
  9. I just did a slow troll through the 27-1/2 pages (10 per page) of new files in the Flightsim.com file library and would like to share a few impressions and thoughts. I think their "New Files" button brings up everything uploaded in the last 30 days - 257 new entries in this case. First and foremost, this has reinforced a creeping sense I've had lately that X-Plane really is becoming a mainstream contender in the flight simulation genre. There is a surprising amount of new freeware listed there for X-Plane, along with much also for FSX and P3D, of course. It's also worth noting that the flow of FS2004/FS9 stuff seems to continue unabated as well. There is even some new stuff being added for FS98, though I can't imagine why. The makeup of what's there in terms of content is about the same as always with one exception. It seems to me that AI flight plans have fallen out of favor and I didn't see too much of that offered. In the not too distant past there were pages and pages of that being uploaded every month. Otherwise, in descending order of frequency, it seems to be repaints, scenery (including airports), fixes to earlier things, complete aircraft (AI and flyable) and the occasional panel, instrument, sound file or utility. Repaints dominate, as always. Of course this is just what's been uploaded in the past month - all the older stuff, barring the odd deletion for one reason or another, is still available in their file library. It's a great resource. I have to acknowledge the developers here. I believe a large part of the reason for the popularity and longegevity of this hobby/addiction of ours is because of the unending stream of new "stuff" that we're presented with. This applies to both the freeware and the payware developers. Both have done sterling work to keep pushing us forward. One of the many charms of the whole FS thing is the richness of our options to make of our personal simulators what we want them to be with add-ons of one kind and another. In addition to those who produce the new freeware, we should also be grateful to those who maintain the on-line file libraries for us. Flightsim.com is my favorite but there are a number of others as well and they make an important contribution. It doesn't hurt either that the hardware has largely caught up with the software. Middle of the road systems seem to be able to handle a fairly robust FS without too much in the way of problems. It hasn't always been like that. It's a great time to be a flight simmer! John
  10. 7/2-3/18 Bundle Updates The monthly update of the Airport Diagram bundle files has been completed. The prior bundles updates were completed on 6/2-3/18. Bundle downloads are available here... http://forum.mutleyshangar.com/index.php?/topic/23067-airport-diagram-download-center/ Changes in this update cycle... Argentina - 1 added SAVV Gobernador Castello - Viedma, Argentina Australia - Western Australia - 1 added YBRY Barimunya - Barimunya, Western Australia - Australia Austria - 1 added LOGK Kapfenberg - Kapfenberg, Austria Bangladesh - 1 added VGSD Saidpur - Saidpur, Bangladesh Belarus - 1 added UMGG Gomel - Gomel, Belarus Belize - 1 added MZ10 San Pedro - San Pedro, Belize Brazil - 2 added SNTR Piritiba - Piritiba, Brazil SWNS Anapolis - Anapolis, Brazil Cambodia - 1 added VDKH Kampong Chhnang - Kampong Chhnang, Cambodia Canada - Alberta - 2 added CFB6 Josephburg - Edmonton, Alberta - Canada CYBW Springbank - Calgary, Alberta - Canada Canada - British Columbia - 1 updated CCI9 Hansen Airfield - Cortes Island, British Columbia - Canada (updated) Canada - Manitoba - 2 added CYGX Gillam - Gillam, Manitoba - Canada CYPG Southport - Portage La Prairie, Manitoba - Canada Canada - Ontario - 2 added CPM5 Volk - Tottenham, Ontario - Canada CYRL Red Lake - Red Lake, Ontario - Canada Canada - Quebec - 1 added; 1 updated CYKL Schefferville - Schefferville, Quebec - Canada (updated) CYRI Riviere-Du-Loup - Riviere-Du-Loup, Quebec - Canada Chad - 1 added FTTA Sarh - Sarh, Chad Colombia - 1 added SKUC Santiago Perez - Arauca, Colombia Croatia - 1 added LDSB Brac Island - Brac, Croatia Egypt - 3 added HE17 Bir Abu Rahal - Bir Abu Rahal, Egypt HE29 Abu Rudeis - Abu Rudeis, Egypt HE46 El Sharqi - El Sharqi, Egypt France - 1 added LFNE Eyguieres - Salon, France French Polynesia - 1 added NTGU Arutua - Arutua, French Polynesia Guadeloupe - 1 added TFFA Desirade - Grande Anse, Guadeloupe Guatemala - 1 added MGSJ San Jose - Puerto San Jose, Guatemala India - 3 added VAPR Porbandar - Porbandar, India VIJP Jaipur - Jaipur, India VOTR Tiruchirappalli - Tiruchirappalli, India Indonesia - 1 added WIOO Supadio - Pontianak, Indonesia Iran - 2 added OIFH Shahid Vatan Pour AB - Esfahan, Iran OIKP Havadarya - Bandar Abbass, Iran Iraq - 4 added OR0Q Habbaniyah - Habbaniyah, Iraq OR0U Ar Rumaylah Southwest - Ar Rumaylah, Southwest, Iraq OR31 Al Muhammadi - Al Muhammadi, Iraq Z16J Erbil Northwest - Erbil, Iraq Jamaica - 1 added MKKJ Ken Jones - Port Antonio, Jamaica Japan - 1 added RJNK Komatsu - Komatsu, Japan Kazakhstan - 1 added UAKK Karaganda - Karaganda, Kazakhstan Malaysia - 1 added WMGK Gong Kedak - Gong Kedak, Malaysia Marshall Islands - 1 added N55 Jaluit - Jabor Jaluit Atoll, Marshall Islands Mexico - 2 added; 1 updated MMHO Gen Ignacio Pesqueira Garcia - Hermosillo, Mexico MMIT Ixtepec - Ixtepec, Mexico MMZO Playa De Oro Intl - Manzanillo, Mexico (updated) Morocco - 1 added GMMS Safi - Safi, Morocco Nicaragua - 1 added MNBL Bluefields - Bluefields, Nicaragua Nigeria - 1 added DNCA Calabar - Calabar, Nigeria Pakistan - 1 added OPBN Bannu - Bannu, Pakistan Panama - 2 added MPWN Wannukandi - Wannukandi, Panama PX06 Chitre - Chitre, Panama Romania - 2 added LRBS Baneasa - Bucharest, Romania LRCL Cluj Napoca - Cluj-Napoca, Romania Saudi Arabia - 1 updated OEGN Prince Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz - Jazan, Saudi Arabia (updated) Slovenia - 1 added LJMB Maribor - Maribor, Slovenia Solomon Islands - 1 added AGAT Atoifi - Atoifi, Solomon Islands Turkmenistan - 1 added UT58 Kalai Mor - Kalai Mor, Turkmenistan US - Alabama - 1 updated KJKA Edwards - Gulf Shores, Alabama - US (updated) US - Alaska - 4 added; 1 updated KYU Koyukuk - Koyukuk, Alaska - US NUL Nulato - Nulato, Alaska - US PAIK Baker Meml - Kiana, Alaska - US PAWG Wrangell - Wrangell, Alaska - US (updated) SAG Sagwon - Sagwon, Alaska - US US - Arkansas - 2 added 73AR Dogwood - Cabot, Arkansas - US 99A Smith's Intl - Sherrill, Arkansas - US US - California - 3 added E27 Elk Grove - Elk Grove, California - US H37 Herlong - Herlong, California - US KEKA Murray - Eureka, California - US Colorado - 1 added 6V6 Hopkins - Nucla, Colorado - US US - Florida - 1 added FA80 Lost Horn Ranch - Ochopee, Florida - US US - Idaho - 1 added 2U7 Stanley - Stanley, Idaho - US US - Illinois - 1 added 1C1 Paxton - Paxton, Illinois - US US - Indiana - 3 added 3R8 Scottsburg - Scottsburg, Indiana - US KGFD Pope - Greenfield, Indiana - US KRID Richmond Mun - Richmond, Indiana - US Iowa - 1 added KCSQ Creston Mun - Creston, Iowa - US US - Kansas - 3 added 3K3 Syracuse-Hamilton Co Mun - Syracuse, Kansas - US K68 Garnett Mun - Garnett, Kansas - US KRPB Belleville Mun - Belleville, Kansas - US US - Kentucky - 2 added KFGX Fleming-Mason - Flemingsburg, Kentucky - US KHVC Hopkinsville-Christian Co - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - US US - Louisiana - 1 added LA01 Millers Flying Service - Basile, Louisiana - US US - Maine - 1 added ME86 Millinocket Lake - Ashland, Maine - US US - Maryland - 1 added; 1 updated KANP Lee - Annapolis, Maryland - US KNHK Patuxent River NAS - Patuxent River, Maryland - US (updated) US - Massachusetts - 1 added 9B1 Marlboro - Marlboro, Massachusetts - US US - Michigan - 1 added KOGM Ontonagon Co - Ontonagon, Michigan - US US - Minnesota - 2 added KFSE Fosston Mun - Fosston, Minnesota - US KMGG Maple Lake Mun - Maple Lake, Minnesota - US US - Missouri - 1 added KDMO Sedalia Meml - Sedalia, Missouri - US US - Nebraska - 3 added KAIA Alliance Mun - Alliance, Nebraska - US KAUH Aurora Mun-Potter - Aurora, Nebraska - US KSWT Seward Mun - Seward, Nebraska - US US - Nevada - 1 added KWMC Winnemucca Mun - Winnemucca, Nevada - US US - New Jersey - 2 added KNEL Lakehurst Naes - Lakehurst, New Jersey - US N81 Hammonton Mun - Hammonton, New Jersey - US US - New Mexico - 1 added; 1 updated E26 Lea Co - Jal, New Mexico - US KCNM Cavern City - Carlsbad, New Mexico - US (updated) US - New York - 1 added W57 Round Lake - Round Lake, New York - US US - North Carolina - 1 added KUKF Wilkes Co - North Wilkesboro, North Carolina - US US - Ohio - 2 added I66 Clinton - Wilmington, Ohio - US KPCW Keller - Port Clinton, Ohio - US US - Oklahoma - 2 added KAXS Altus/Quartz Mountain Regl - Altus, Oklahoma - US KELK Elk City Mun - Elk City, Oklahoma - US US - Oregon - 1 added KRBG Roseburg Regl - Roseburg, Oregon - US US - Rhode Island - 1 added KBID Block Island State - Block Island, Rhode Island - US US - South Carolina - 1 added KGRD Greenwood Co - Greenwood, South Carolina - US US - South Dakota - 1 added 9D1 Gregory Muni, Flynn Field - Gregory, South Dakota - US US - Tennessee - 1 added 3M3 Collegedale Mun - Collegedale, Tennessee - US US - Texas - 6 added 00R Livingston Mun - Livingston, Texas - US 50TX Kennedy Ranch - Blanco, Texas - US KBGD Hutchinson Co - Borger, Texas - US KINJ Hillsboro Mun - Hillsboro, Texas - US KPIL Port Isabel-Cameron Co - Port Isabel, Texas - US T30 McKinley - Pearsall, Texas - US US - Utah - 1 added KENV Wendover - Wendover, Utah - US US - Vermont - 2 added 6B0 Middlebury State - Middlebury, Vermont - US KEFK Newport State - Newport, Vermont - US US - Washington - 2 added; 1 updated 32WA Compressor Station Number 8 - Wallula, Washington - US KNUW Whidbey I NAS - Oak Harbor, Washington - US (updated) S94 Port Of Whitman Business Air C - Colfax, Washington - US US - Wisconsin - 2 added 7V3 Big Foot - Walworth, Wisconsin - US 82C Mauston-New Lisbon Union - New Lisbon, Wisconsin - US Venezuela - 1 updated SVBC Gen. Jose Antonio Anzoategui I - Barcelona, Venezuela (updated) Water Runway Airports - 1 added ME86 Millinocket Lake - Ashland, Maine - US Zambia - 1 added FLMG Mongu - Mongu, Zambia Zimbabwe - 1 added FVMD Mount Darwin - Mount Darwin, Zimbabwe Prior Updates: 6/2-3/18 New Bundles: 0 Updated Bundles: 82 New Diagrams: 118 Updated Diagrams: 10
  11. Old, old thread but I have to add that if you're looking for a freeware Office clone, Libre Office is pretty good. I use it exclusively now and like Open Office, it can read and write the MS Office file formats. https://www.libreoffice.org/ John
  12. Happy Birthday Andrew. Due to the location of the International Date Line, your birthday must be nearly over by now where you are. Hope you're having a great time and still enjoying every moment of it. John
  13. I struggle with the Garmin in FSX too, but have learned a few useful things that I can use it for without a lot of fumbling around. In general, it's pretty much a mystery to me. As a side note related to the GPS, the Approaches list that I include in the airport diagrams is a listing of those approaches that are built into the FSX/Garmin GPS. If you see an approach listed on one of my charts, you can expect that approach to also be available in the GPS, many with multiple transitions (which I do not list). John
  14. It seems I'm reading and commenting on old threads these days. I point out that, 3-1/2 years later there is still no TTIP and there isn't likely to be one anytime soon. The sky was not falling after all. I'm no expert on the details of TTIP, but suspect that the Brexit referendum result and the election of Donald Trump pretty much knocked the wheels of that particular government initiative. John
  15. On the Garmin GPS 500 in FSX - probably the same in P3D NRST button - > PUSH CRSR button (center of knob - top line airport ICAO will blink) -> Outer Knob Right Arrow (blinking ICAO will move down one airport - move to desired airport) -> ENT button -> Inner Knob Right Arrow to 3rd page. Will have a list of the airport frequencies, including the ILS. Obviously you have to be near enough to your destination airport for it to be listed in the top nine. John
  16. Interesting to read back through some of these old threads four years later and see that the sky really was not falling after all. 64-bit P3D and Win10 have made all this sound kind of humorous, though no doubt early 32-bit P3D with few/no add-ons and the Win 8/8.1 debacle did cause a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth at the time. Given a little patience and riding out the bumps in the road, most things get better over time. John
  17. Map view… zoom in a few clicks until you see runways, click on any runway; either airport or ILS text info will display (depending on zoom level and exactly where you click). Either will do as the ILS frequencies are in the runway table of the airport text. …or... Allard's airport diagrams. John EDIT: Just discovered that, in the Map View, just mousing over the ILS feather will pop up an info box that includes the frequency. You must have the ILS feathers turned on in the top button bar of the map view. JDA
  18. Hey, Dodgy, pick a winner and lets move on... John
  19. That would seriously surprise me, Brian. ...but I can try it out on you if you'd like, just to see how it works. Kind of like having your friend let you try out his new Taser on you. How bad could it be? John
  20. I see we now have a "Downvote" button available. Can't wait for some clown to provide an opportunity to use it. John
  21. Many happy returns, Boss. You even managed to have it fall on a weekend this year. Let the celebrating begin! John
  22. When FSX was published (2006) and for quite a number of years after, MS had a contract with someone (Jeppesen?) to provide RW WX. It worked by having your running instance of FSX log into the other party's WX servers and download an update periodically - every 15 minutes, I think - which was then displayed in your FSX if you had RW WX selected. Around the time period when MS dropped MS F-light and licensed FSX software to L-M and DTG, they stopped paying the freight for the RW WX from the vendor (also about the same time MS dropped the GameSpy contract, killing the in-game multi-player menu choices, but that's another story). In place of RW WX, Jeppesen, or whoever the vendor was, now provides "historic WX". Don't know the details of how that's done or if MS still pays them something but in any case, it involves fewer on-demand WX fetches from users and a smaller bandwidth hit for them. If MS is still paying part of the cost, it's probably less than when we could all get RW WX on demand from within FSX. Thank God for the add-on vendors. John EDIT: All the above is re native MS-FSX. Don't know how P3D (L-M) and FSX-SE (DTG and Steam) handle this. It may be that they, instead of MS, are paying the reduced freight rate for the RW WX that isn't, or maybe they have their own contract. It's hard to beat the REX and Active Sky payware stuff in any case. If WX is important to you and you are not using one or both of those, you should really consider it. JDA
  23. There's some pretty good analysis/speculation at PPRUNE on this. Older C-130s, before the current FADEC systems, had cables from throttle levers to engines, necessarily using a very convoluted routing. Earliest ones used 7 X 7 carbon steel cables. Later ones went to 7 X 19 stainless steel. Don't know if the cable upgrade was mandatory or if some of the older cables might still exist in older airframes. There's apparently a well known phenomenon that a broken throttle cable puts the prop into reverse pitch - at the engine, the broken cable just seems to be a command to go to beta range, so it does. That is not inhibited in flight, though to command it deliberately involves lifting the lever over a stop to pull it back into ground range. They say that several fatal C-130 take-off crashes have resulted over the years from broken throttle cables. The speculation at PPRUNE indicates that the crash profile from takeoff to impact, including going fully inverted then nose-down, is consistent with this happening, but doesn't constitute a smoking gun - other things could have caused it too. Apparently, there are two in-flight engine shut-down procedures, one for "normal" circumstances, and one to be used if a broken throttle cable is suspected, which consists of pulling the T-handle (engine fire shutdown lever, I think). I believe that moving the affected throttle lever if a broken cable is suspected can cause the loose cable to interact with other nearby things. The nine aboard were all service personnel, including some maintainers who were travelling with the aircraft. Some kind of maintenance was performed while the AC was in Savannah but there are no details given of what that may have been. That's about 110% of what I understand about this. John
  24. allardjd

    Baggage Boy

    This reminds me of a real-world observation, from long ago and at an airport I can't remember. I was sitting in my seat in an airliner, I believe at an intermediate stop on the way to my destination. Watching out the window from my seat I saw a tug with an attached line of covered carts snake up beside the aircraft. The driver got out and opened the sides of the carts - can't remember how many, but more than one. Apparently they only had one side that opened (covered by a tarp of some kind if I remember correctly), and it faced away from the aircraft. He proceeded to take canvas mail bags out of the carts and heave them over the top of the carts - about 6' high - where they landed on the concrete apron on the other side of the carts and as the pile built, on one another. When he had finished that he went around the line of carts and began to load the mail bags on a belt going up to, I assume, a cargo hatch - I couldn't see it. Anyway, remember this next time you mark "Fragile" on a package. John
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