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I've been doing a bit of research on MH this afternoon. Still haven't found an answer, so I thought I might appeal to the collective wisdom: Problem: Every once in a while the default FSX ATC gets into (what appears to be) an unstoppable loop. here's how it goes - JKM climb and maintain 8,000 JKM descend and maintain 7,000 JKM climb and maintain 8,000 JKM descend and maintain 7,000 JKM climb and maintain 8,000 Usually I don't let it go quite this far. I request higher (go for a big one, like +5,000). ATC will always grant your wish. After a suitable time, most of which is accounted for by getting 5,000 feet higher, the loop starts again. JKM climb and maintain 13,000 JKM descend and maintain 12,000 JKM climb and maintain 13,000 JKM descend and maintain 12,000 At this point, I cancel IFR and work it out for myself. Not too bad if the WX is reasonable, but it sure is a PITA on an AH flight into meteorological mahem. Especially if there's any stuffed clouds ahead. Have any of you worked out how to shake these guys? I have far better ATC software loaded on my computer but I'm trying to use strictly stock (default) FSX weather, aircraft, and ATC for my AH flying. Sort of a hedge against problems that terminate an AH flight out in left field. This is not an AH issue as far as I can see. ATC does this to me without AH in the loop from time to time. Thoughts?