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Carenado seem quite happy to tweak their models to show in a new sim e.g 2004 -> FSX -> P3D and now MSFS but some of the fundamental flight functions do not always work. I would be real happy if they build a new model from the ground up within the new SDK (when it's finished).

 

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Is this guy serious!!!

The issues with his review:

  • claims to review it thoroughly yet misses the obvious fault with the camera view settings...a minor camera.cfg error, by the way;
  • fails to acknowledge the "cold and dark" engine start is also a problem with some default aircraft, therefore, not necessarily Carenado's or the model's fault;
  • ignores the simple fact that flight simmers may want a Cessna 182T Skylane, so stating it has nothing over the default Cessnas is nonsensical and totally subjective;
  • the control sensitivity is also evident in other default aircraft, so he has either never flown them or has not done enough to adjust his controller sensitivities;
  • criticises the lack of static elements feature without stating whether MSFS supports this...he probably doesn't know;
  • his views on price ignores value for money considerations and with a current lack of any other 3rd party add-on aircraft, what is he comparing it to...a totally subjective assessment;
  • price is a totally individual subjective consideration, because it more often relates to the purchaser's personal desire and ability to afford, not the price of the product;
  • totally ignores the fact that there has never been a 3rd party add-on aircraft in legacy sims that was perfect on initial release, so why should this be different to expectations in MSFS;
  • whilst Carenado are not the best at patches and updates, they do generally release an update patch within four weeks of release (based on legacy sim experience) and this is not acknowledged; and
  • his poor piloting skills in failing to steer the aircraft on the landing roll out and he blames the model!!!!! :faint:

I have been flying this aircraft regularly since MSFS Release Day 1, and this aircraft is a great add-on and choice for those looking for a broader range of GA aircraft than that provided in MSFS, particularly the Standard Edition, for those simply wanting a Cessna 182T Skylane, or an aircraft with better performance characteristics than the default Cessna 172. It flies and handles nicely and whilst it is not without its issues, these are either not necessarily the fault of Carenado or the model and are minor and not the show stoppers he chooses to present them as.

Maybe he should spend less time on flashy videos and more time on actually getting "under the hood" of aircraft he reviews. :cool:

EDIT. It is also worth noting that after praising the exterior and interior visual quality and other minor animations not available in default MSFS aircraft, he makes no mention of these in his summary and only focuses on the negative points of his review.

Cheers
Andrew

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Further Testing. Never one to just accept something as a given or to make unsubstantiated claims, I have conducted further testing of the Carenado Cessna 182T Skylane which unfortunately exposes an additional lack of detail in this YouTube review.

Let's first look at the reviewer's failures in start procedures:

  1. Differ significantly from those of the default Cessna 172 G1000 (a similar aircraft),
  2. Fuel Tanks not switched on,
  3. Standby Battery not switched to arm, and
  4. Fuel Pump not switched on.

Whilst identifying the "cold and dark" start issue, and then raising questions about its validity on the basis of other videos, he fails to explore and/or state what, if anything, he did to explore the issue beyond what he merely demonstrated. This is a classic case of simply presenting a problem without analysis. The reviewer has failed to identify that the "cold and dark" start issue only occurs if the Carenado Cessna 182T Skylane is the first aircraft chosen after first start up of MSFS. If the aircraft is chosen after having flown other aircraft, the issue does not exist.

NOTE. When correct procedures are followed for the start up of the aircraft, there is no issue. Having said that, my further testing revealed this to be intermittent and, therefore, more likely to be MSFS based and not the fault of Carenado or the model, as previously highlighted.

As stated previously, I have encountered this issue with some default aircraft and my testing continues to identify and attempt to replicate the issue.

The review makes no real mention of the performance of the aircraft other than the control sensitivity. With the flight controls of every aircraft, default or add-on, and every flight controller being completely different, this is superficial, to say the least.

For someone who credits himself on his YouTube channel as being a "Virtual Captain", whatever that means (maybe it has something to do with a specified number of hours on VATSIM), the reviewer's lack of thoroughness, glaring errors and simple, if any, analysis, undermines his supposed credentials and the validity of this review.

Cheers
Andrew

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Andrew, It's good to see you have gone to the trouble of showing us that the video maker is more at fault than the Carenado model.  The problem is we live in a media driven world where people find it easy to start a video channel.  They then become obsessed with number of followers which bring in money for them.  Then the super ego kicks in and they become convinced they are an expert.  Thank you for being diligent in fact finding that the model is OK.  I have it in X-Plane and had it in FSX, so the logic was to get it for 2020, but sadly I succumbed to the influence of the video and that's why I posted to the forum.  Thank you.. 

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1 hour ago, jaydor said:

Andrew, It's good to see you have gone to the trouble of showing us that the video maker is more at fault than the Carenado model.  The problem is we live in a media driven world where people find it easy to start a video channel.  They then become obsessed with number of followers which bring in money for them.  Then the super ego kicks in and they become convinced they are an expert.  Thank you for being diligent in fact finding that the model is OK.  I have it in X-Plane and had it in FSX, so the logic was to get it for 2020, but sadly I succumbed to the influence of the video and that's why I posted to the forum.  Thank you.. 

Jaydor,

I merely seek the truth by challenging what is presented, where necessary, so that a better balanced and more accurate assessment of something is presented. I note that Q8Pilot, (real name Osamah Alabdullah) is a noted content creator and has quite a profile in the flight sim community, and particularly with X-Plane. His stated aim for his Carenado Cessna182T Skylane review was "...to provide you with sufficient insight and information to decide if this Carenado CT182T is worth the investment or not...". 

On the simple basis of the points I raise, he has even failed to achieve this aim! It is obvious that content creation and comprehensive, analytical reviews are not necessarily one in the same.

Cheers
Andrew

 

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