TomDangeroux

Some quality trolling here. I thought I had accidentally stumbled upon Katy Hopkins' Twitter feed. Classy guys, very classy.

The PR offensive begins

If you like Chrome but don’t want the baggage of Google’s snooping, you can always install Chromium instead. Chromium is the open source browser on which Chrome is based. I personally prefer Firefox with NoScript installed for everyday browsing, Safari for banking, yes that’s banking and Chromium for any sites that insist on still using Flash Player for video, as I uninstalled Flash Player system wide some time ago.

And you could Tweet your hacking progress on the official Mutley's Hanger Twitter feed. On second thoughts, just read a book.

Thanks for the link Nigel. A fun set of videos.

I'm sure everything will be fine Joe. Just make sure the pilots turn it off and on again before takeoff. Neighbours of ours, a young couple with a new baby were unfortunately on Dan Air 1008. They only lived about five houses along from us. Very sad.

Yes Martin, nice PDF, it’s all there. What a mighty fine mess they’ve got themselves into. Reading through the document, the authors can envisage attacks coming from all directions, it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. You could apply a good chunk of the information given in the PDF to any organisation with an internet presence, like your bank for instance, and we all know what a sterling job they do. All the work that’s gone into airline safety over the decades and then they go and migrate all the dangers associated with the internet and willingly open themselves up to it. They can

Yes, it would seem a prudent rule for very good reasons. But as I said in the opening post, they bought it from outside of the US, Africa if I remember correctly.

Hi Chris, If your referring to the first part of my post, this is the very same attack I described in the opening post in this thread. This is the confusion. The posts earlier all refer to Chris Robert’s research using this direct access attack to the aircrafts avionics bay, never from the passenger cabin. He may have made progress lately, if his famous Tweet is to be believed, but as I haven’t seen his presentation at the RSA conference last week yet, I don’t know. They procured the laptop from the second hand open market for around $1000. From people who deal with second hand parts and

I haven't reached that conclusion, I haven’t reached any conclusion. Only one attack vector has been discussed in any detail and it's been misinterpreted. The Dos attack pertaining to the autopilot command switch has caused confusion, that's my fault for describing it that way. The hackers likened it to a Dos as they were "denying a service to the pilots", but they were using it as an analogy because the attack on the autopilot was exploited by leveraging the avionics bay attack vector. The attack using the maintenance laptop. This would be loaded with a specially crafted software 'crate' tha

The point your making is very relevant MartinW. Let’s not get bogged down with minutia allardjd. This thread should not be about correcting every single little mistake, it’s the general picture that should be relevant. 50, 100, 1000 ft, it’s not all that important surely. The premise is correct. We are indeed on the same frequency Chris. I’m like you but minus 20 years Just to clarify, I don’t work for Sony

No worries Chris. Seriously, it’s only a silly thread Please don’t infer that I grasp what these guys are capable of, I just find this type of subject matter fascinating, and when it applies to aviation it checks all my boxes. I don’t know if these guys can do what they claim. I just hope they are in dialog with people in authority. They will determine what measures must be taken. I understand if you’re cynical as to their motives. I don’t know either way. But I do find the FBI’s response to all this rather suggestive. But don’t quote me on that

Oh boy "They said that when the pilots realised something may be wrong and the a/c was carrying out unexpected commands, the pilots could switch the autopilot off. The hackers could turn it back on again. They realised if they sent the ‘on’ command at a sufficient rate, the pilot would no longer be able to turn it off." They described the principle as a denial of service attack. I doubt very much it bears any resemblance to the standard Dos attacks that bring down web sites. I'm sure they were using an analogy. We don’t know what that form of attack took. It may bear no resemblance to t

@PC8MyBrain. They used clever social engineering skill and very possibly ‘ghetto tool’ techniques too. I fail to understand the need for the Lol or the statement that i’m being forced fed information. As for the DDos scenario. You appear to be talking from a position of a Wi-Fi attack. They never mentioned Wi-Fi and neither did I, that came from press reports. He claims he can gain direct access to the flight systems and programmed his ‘crate’ software package to repeatedly call for the auto pilot to be engaged locking the pilots out of the loop. They denied the service of the auto pil

I kind of did that, didn’t I I’m glad that I have more than convinced you that there is an immediate and plausible threat. I’m sure they hoped the airline industry would have the same view and do something about it, not tell them to go away. I understand the confusion, but this was the very point the hackers were attempting to emphasise. Yes, they have considerable knowledge and experience. They possess skills that to us seem fantastical. But they are not unique in this regard. Many ‘black hatters’ also possess such skills, be them private individuals, organised crime, terrorist groups