dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Sad news indeed. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/22318/two-vintage-warbirds-crashed-in-separate-incidents-on-eve-of-oshkosh-air-show Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 I've seen the video of the DC-3/C-47 crash several times. I believe he may have had the control lock in. I never saw any deflection of any of the control surfaces in the video - not rudder, not elevator nor ailerons - not even ailerons after liftoff as it rolled first a little right, then left. Countering that roll with ailerons would be second nature to anyone flying and I can't see any evidence of it happening. It appears he never got the tail up, so the angle of attack was higher than for a normal takeoff and the AC lifted off at a lower than normal airspeed. I can't see anything that indicates any engine issues, but can't rule it out either. As crashes go, it was more of a ground loop than a crash though he was briefly airborne. Thankfully everyone survived. I think the AC would have been repairable if it hadn't burned. Haven't seen any other info as to cause but a control lock left installed looks to me to fit what I see in the video. John Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 The NTSB preliminary report is out... https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20180721X41413 No evidence of control locks and the tailwheel was locked, as it's supposed to be. Transfer of control from co-pilot to pilot early in the take off run due to heading swings. Co-pilot was somewhat inexperienced and only had received his type rating in the DC-3 a month before. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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