remingtonbox 18 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Today, I was about 1000 agl just east of the airport, my student was flying, he turned toward the airport to join the downwind and gave it some power but nothing happened. He told me that the engine quit in a conversational voice so it took me a couple of seconds to process what he said, I then said my airplane and landed it on a dirt road just off of the highway... Really glad to get the experience, I never want to go through it again. http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Small-Plane-Makes-Emergency-Landing-Near-Independence-No-One-Hurt-216203641.html Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Cause, if you can discuss it? Attaboy for keeping cool and saving the day. John Link to post Share on other sites
remingtonbox 18 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Magneto points got stuck closed. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Both Mags?!? John Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Both Mags?!? John my question also seems a bit bizarre unless one mag wasnt operating properly at the start in which case it should hve been picked up on the mag check before departure. Link to post Share on other sites
Mistwalker 3 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Well done on keeping a cool head and bringing her down safely. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Nicely saved, Good job you had somewhere to go! My first emergency was when I was flying a Microlight out of Enstone, Oxfordshire. This was one of those 2 seat flying triangle trainers, (Can't remember what it was called now) anyway we'd just lifted off and were clibing away when the engine cut out, we came back down and landed in a wheatfield cutting a swathe right through the crop, The instructor and I were just disentangling ourselves when a Landrover pulled up nearby, at first we thought he was there to help, but then a shotgun appeared through the side window and the owner yelled out, "Get that f**kin airplane outta my bl**dy field! I'se sick o' you'se careless ba**ards crashing into it! " My instructor told the guy that we'd get it removed ASAP! at which point the vehicle drove off. Our recovery vehicle came out and the hapless Microlight was loaded onto the trailer. (by the time we'd done that there was even more crop flattened) Once back at the airfield an examination of the engine showed that wheat chaff had been ingested into the carburettor and blocked the fuel line! It was the bl**dy farmers stupid decision to plant wheat at the end of the runway that had brought the aircraft down in the first place! Link to post Share on other sites
Mistwalker 3 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 No no NO! It's your fault for building an airfield next to his wheat field! Link to post Share on other sites
remingtonbox 18 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Well yes and no, our hawk uses a dual mag in a single case so when one fails, it takes about .0000000000000001 seconds for the other one to fail. A pretty stupid design really... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm surprised that ever got certified. Independence and redundancy is the object of dual ignition systems in the first place. Shared components and common mode failures are supposed to be verboten. Why carry the extra weight if the thing doesn't actually provide redundancy? Ah, well, I'm sure the FAA knows what it's doing.... Probably the manufacturer of that component is a big political contributor. John Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I once tried to teach my ex to do a 3 point turn on the main runway at Enstone. Now bear in mind it used to handle heavy bombers in WW2 and therefore had big runways, My car at the time was a Morris Marina, a medium sized family car, you'd have thought it would be easy, I mean I was pulling donuts on that strip earlier so it was plenty big enough! Well 27 points later and she STILL managed to go off the side! Her co-ordination was absolute rubbish! Thankfully she's improved a lot since 1984...and now lives 270 miles away in Yorkshire Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I am not being antifeminist, but I have yet to find a female who can reverse a car with accuracy and confidence, most need something the size of the turning circle of the Queen Mary to accomplish it. Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,316 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Great save Remington. Glad your OK How is your student, still interested in flying? Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I am not being antifeminist, but I have yet to find a female who can reverse a car with accuracy and confidence, most need something the size of the turning circle of the Queen Mary to accomplish it. LOL, Though in fairness my sister is brilliant at it! But then she had a whole family load of good instructors! Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 @ Remington, How involve does the FAA get in this kind of thing? Are they showing any interest at all? John Link to post Share on other sites
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