PanzerFodder 0 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 New a bit of help here chaps . PanzerFodders Flying Circus will be expanding shortly and will need another aircraft (as long as I don't smash up the 182 again and have to pay for repairs, that is ). Fancy a twin ATM for some reason, and I have a cessna 310R in my hanger right now http://www.milviz.co...em.php?id=C310R it's a bit faster than the 182 RG and can carry a little more cargo, the main thing is that has a much nicer cockpit with different dash layout options, including full glass , and if I decide to use this one, I won't have to dish out the real world cash if you know what I mean I do also fancy a cessna 210 but I don't really want to spend $35 on a plane that does not have a prop pitch animation . So has anyone used the 310 in AH before, or can give advice if this is a smart move or not? BTW: I have no idea how to work out what the fuel burn per hour is in US Gallons?, if someone can work it out from the stats below I would be most gratefull, or even suggest what one should be best for use in AirHauler . Fuel Flow (1) Minimum Operating 2.5 PSI (Red Radial) (2) Normal Operating 15.0 to 24.5 inches Hg. Manifold Pressure (Green Arc) (a) Green Radials 45% Power – 59.0 Pounds per hour (6.5 PSI) 55% Power – 71.0 Pounds per hour (7.6 PSI) 65% Power – 82.0 Pounds per hour (8.8 PSI) 75% Power – 94.0 Pounds per hour (10.25 PSI) (b) Blue Triangle 75% Climb Setting – 107.0 Pounds per hour (12.0 PSI) © White Arc – Sea Level Takeoff and Climb Power Setting 146.5 Pounds per hour (19.7 PSI) to 150.0 Pounds per hour (20.5 PSI) (d) Blue Radials – Altitude Takeoff Power and Climb Power Setting 2000 Feet – 134.0 Pounds per hour (17.0 PSI) 4000 Feet – 124.0 Pounds per hour (15.0 PSI) 6000 Feet – 116.0 Pounds per hour (13.5 PSI) (3) Maximum Operating 155.0 Pounds per hour (21.7 PSI) (Red Radial) Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Consider the Flight1 Pilatus PC-12. Not a twin but a good piece of software and a very capable airplane. Virtavia has a Caribou that you can pick up at PC Aviator at a reasonable price. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 This is my write-up on fuel burn from the "Useful Info and Top Tips" thread at the JF/AH forum... DETERMINING FUEL CONSUMPTION There are at least three ways to get fuel consumption info... 1) Look it up on line. It's a statistic that's often difficult to find, but sometimes you get lucky. 2) If you know the range, cruise speed and fuel capacity you can work it out. You divide range by cruise speed to get endurance, then divide fuel capacity by endurance. That will get you there. The result will probably be a little rough, but good enough for AH. 3) Fly the plane in FS in a non-AH flight... Climb to a typical cruise altitude and set a typical cruise power setting. Using the panel clock as a time reference... Open the Fuel & Payload menu... Top Line Menu -> Aircraft -> Fuel & Payload Read the fuel quantity from the F & P menu Return to the sim When exactly 10 minutes has elapsed by the panel clock go back to the F & P menu and read the fuel quantity again. Subtract the two to determine how much you burned in ten minutes. Multiply that by six to determine how much you will burn in an hour. Note that this will be in pounds and AH wants the fuel consumption in US gallons. To convert pph to USG/hr - - - If Jet A divide by 6.7; if 100LL divide by 6.0 Note that the fuel consumption value that you enter in AH does not affect the way it performs in FS. AH uses that value for job generation, AH scheduling, etc - only things internal to AH. Note also that fuel burn is NOT affected by AC weight, only by density altitude and power setting. Speed will vary with AC weight, but fuel burn will not if the power setting remains constant. Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Consider the Flight1 Pilatus PC-12. Not a twin but a good piece of software and a very capable airplane. Virtavia has a Caribou that you can pick up at PC Aviator at a reasonable price. Thank's for that John. I have looked at the PC-12 many time's and would jump at the chance to get it, do you have any idea what it wil cost to buy in AH ? I would think it's going to be even more expensive than a C 208 ? so that will be a long way off for me because I only have 56 grand in the bank ATM . I was going to use the Kodiak but have thown that idea out now because the cockpit sucks big time, after flying the A2A and Milviz stuff TBH and it's almost a million bucks as well!. BTW: Thanks for the tips on fuel conversion in your other post in this thread, Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 This is the FS9 version of the PC-12... Aircraft: Pilatus PC-12 Publisher/Developer: Flight1 Sim Version: FS9 AH Purchase Cost: $1,431,277.00 Lease Deposit: $178,909.63 Monthly Lease Payment: $79,515.39 MTOW: 9,965 lbs. Empty Weight: 5,732 lbs. Max Fuel: 406 USG Cargo Capacity: 1,512 lbs. Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Thanks John. I just took a look at the Pilatus site (the RL one) and in one of their examples it really kicks the C208's butt big style http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/#13 Look's like the PC-12 will be going on my shopping list, athough getting to use it in AH is going to take one heck of a time due to the cash flow, or rather lack of it . Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 PC Aviator has the Wilco Piaggio P-180 II on sale for $19.97 until the 14th. That's a good one too, fully 100 knots faster but not as good at short fields as the PC-12. John Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Thanks John. Looking at the PC-12 as the main candidate for adding to the flying circus hauling power. Found this rather nice video of a real life one landing at Elk River, I could really see myself in one of these best watched at 720p HD And here's a FSX PC-12 video (BTW: I am not being held responsible, if Sabre rushes out and buys this as well ) Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 That must have been a LOONNGGG lens. Do you think the guy flying was having fun? John Link to post Share on other sites
kardeck 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I was looking at a few add-ons, mainly because the cargo capacity of the default a/c has a gap (imho) between the King Air (2300) and the DC3 (6200). Is there an aircraft, in that price range, that has a capacity of between 4000 to 5000? Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Grumman S2 Tracker (Abacus & Freeware) Short 330 Sherpa (Premier Aircraft – freeware) Short S300 (Premier Aircraft – freeware) Short S360 Cargo (Premier Aircraft - freeware) North American OV-10A (freeware) Boeing 247D (freeware) Antonov 2T (freeware) Ju-52/3M (freeware) Bae Jetstream 4100 (PMDG) I would think some of the smaller bizjet types might have cargo capacities in that range too. John EDIT: Note that the AH Cargo Capacity statistic is with full fuel tanks. For self-flown flights, it is permissible to carry less fuel and more cargo as long as MTOW is not exceeded. That means you may at times find it possible and useful to carry more than the CC statistic suggests. JDA Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 John. I just saw that the Feelthere "Embraer Regional Jets V2" is on sale here http://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18956 looks like a very good price too me . Would this one be any good for Air Hauler? as I can't seem to find and stats for what it costs or how much carries? Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Aircraft: Embraer ERJ-145LR Publisher/Developer: Feel There Sim Version: FS9/FSX AH Purchase Cost: $9,364,731.00 Lease Deposit: $1,170,591.38 Monthly Lease Payment: $520,262.84 MTOW: 48,501 lbs. Empty Weight: 27,337 lbs. Max Fuel: 1701 lbs. Cargo Capacity: 9764 lbs. Edited August 4, 2017 by allardjd Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Aircraft : Embraer 170 Publisher/Developer : Wilco/Feelthere Sim Version : FSX AH Purchase Cost : £16,614,180.00 Lease Deposit : £2,076,773.00 Monthly Lease Payment: £923,010.25 MTOW : 82011 Empty Weight : 46385 Max Fuel : 3124 Cargo Capacity : 14695.2 Aircraft : Embraer 190 Publisher/Developer : Wilco/Feelthere Sim Version : FSX AH Purchase Cost : £23,395,780.00 Lease Deposit : £2,924,472.00 Monthly Lease Payment: £1,299,765.38 MTOW : 110892 Empty Weight : 61112 Max Fuel : 4274 Cargo Capacity : 21144.2 Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Thanks John. Looks like the ERJ-145LR will fit in nicely (only problem is, I can't fly jets "LOL") an expensive present for the AI pilots maybe! . Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Don't feel bad - I can't fly taildraggers, or more precisely, can't seem to manage cross-wind ground operations and landings with them. It's a totally humbling experience. John Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Don't feel bad - I can't fly taildraggers, or more precisely, can't seem to manage cross-wind ground operations and landings with them. It's a totally humbling experience. John You need to use the tail wheel lock if fitted to the aircraft, I used to get into some right tangles untill I mapped a button on my throttle to operate mine . I suck at landing them as well, can't see a ruddy thing once the nose comes up . Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre 28 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I suck at landing them as well, can't see a ruddy thing once the nose comes up . I can vouch for that :P Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I suck at landing them as well, can't see a ruddy thing once the nose comes up . I can vouch for that :P Thank you for those few kind words . So have you pulled the trigger on the Embraer yet? bet you want it, don't you? Cheer's...Graham... PS: it seems to fill the gap between the DC3 and Airbus 321 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 After I land in a taildragger I hit the Shift+Enter button like a chicken eating fresh feed. Never used the tailwheel lock, will have to try it. Link to post Share on other sites
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