M.I.B. 39 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Red alert. link: http://airdailyx.blogspot.ro/2013/12/my-take-on-this-whole-a380-thing-and.html Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thanks for the warning. May all the thieving scammers get their comeuppance sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites
M.I.B. 39 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 My pleasure. You know, I can't help but express my indignation on cases like this; everyone's so actively against sharing paywares on sharing websites and torrents (don't get me wrong, I don't say this shouldn't happen), but they don't seem to give a damn on scammers like this, or like FlightSim Pro. Scams like FlightSim Pro (a copy of Flightgear which you have to pay for) aren't illegal (it's open source after all), nobody fights against this evil, even though tons of people are ripped off their hard earned money; conclusion - scams do a heck of a lot more harm than torrents/shared paywares, but we're not allowed to know that, it's all about business, interests, money...oops, something I said Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Scams hurt the consumer, ends up costing us money. Illegal torrents or shared payware hurts the companies which still hurts the consumer in higher prices of goods to make up what the company loses. Either way we as consumers get stuck paying the bill, either directly or indirectly. They are both equally bad in my book. Link to post Share on other sites
TheeAviationist 18 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Before I read this I made one that has the contents of a Just Flight Email/Newsletter. Suggest that you read it too. BTW nice link. Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 whilst I am against scams , i am afraid I see no harm at all in sharing/torrent sites . If devs want to protect their intillectual wares there are plenty of easy ways of going about this , but a certain quantity think it better to just bad mouth file shareing sites which accomplishes nothing. When you leave your house to go shopping , do you leave the door open? do you leave the key in the door? of course not , you take whatever reasonable measures you can to avoid being burgled. Of course robbery sadly does happen but one can reduce the possibility of it happeneing. Likewise software devs , in actual fact they can protect their products much better than we can our homes , so I dont buy this bitching about torrent sites. I do from time to time use a torrent to download something to try before buying it. I have in the past put my hand in my pocket and bought some awful crap that was supposed to be the latest most desired thing etc if you believe the adverts, so now i try it and if I like it, i buy it, if not I bin it. If all software was sold with a trial period it would stop me and many others doing this, and greatly reduce the usage of torrent sites although I admit there are a certain percentage of users who just prefer to steal stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
hlminx 301 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have in the past put my hand in my pocket and bought some awful crap that was supposed to be the latest most desired thing etc if you believe the adverts, so now i try it and if I like it, i buy it, if not I bin it. If all software was sold with a trial period it would stop me and many others doing this, and greatly reduce the usage of torrent sites although I admit there are a certain percentage of users who just prefer to steal stuff. With you on that Nigel. A trial or limited functionality trial would have prevented me from parting with quite a bit of cash over the years on total pap! FS Flying School and Ground Services X are both great addons and both let you try before you buy...its a shame not all companies follow suit, or maybe they just dont trust that people would still buy their products. Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Torrent sites are a blight and cost all of us more money in the long run. Good way to get a good virus too! Link to post Share on other sites
Screwbottle 0 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hello, need to put my two cents worth in, and correct a wrong misconception here. Nothing wrong with torrents and the mechanism that creates and delivers them. Nothing illegal about them either. Bittorrent is a fantastic mechanism, and a great invention by it's author Bram Cohen, to allow massive files to be transported legally and efficiently around the world without overloading hosting servers, as it spreads the load, that's the facts. Many a good program, such as Linux distros, and FlightSims such as FlightGear, now in excess of 20GB if you want to download the entire pack, and other large unboxed commercial combat sims, are offered in this format. One can gain access to and download many a good program, content, media, whether commercial or opensource etc. totally legal, available via the torrent mechanism. And incorrectly stated, they are not all infected with virusses, but again one would be crazy just to surf the web without a good malware protection suite, so infection cannot be laid at the door of torrents. Something like, if you are going to cruise the streets for some company, you need protection. Its the cracked/stolen content on dubious websites that makes torrents bad/infected and gives the service a bad name. So we need to discern and separate this, and not label torrents as all bad. Just like I am a hacker as part of my career and business, a white cap security officer on the right side of the law using my IT skills to expose, repair and fix IT issues, while crackers called black caps are on the wrong side of the law. We are both skilled in the same work, but one of us chooses to use that skill for nefarious reasons. The general public and media confuse the two and we are all labelled hackers, much to our disappointment. Go well and enjoy good torrents Regards Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thanks for your input Andrew, I understand your points. It's a shame torrents get a bad name because of folks pirating things that do not belong to them. I hold the sites that host pitated material responsible also, although the law can't touch them. In the long run, it cost me more money for products I purchase legally. Link to post Share on other sites
Screwbottle 0 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hi Brett Yep, that's also the rub, those sites you mention that you hold responsible, that host torrents, do for good reasons, but don't police their sites, so allow the illegal stuff as well. As an example PirateBay have just won an international court case, over their "legitimacy", and it's an interesting read on the web about the case, a movie has even been made about it. As to it costing us more, I feel we the customer are between a rock and a hard place unfairly, as many of the media houses, be it games, add-ons, video, movies, music etc are using piracy as a lever to push up prices unjustifiably. Why do i say this, well the entertainment industry is now the biggest in the world at over $20Trillion as of the end of 2011, I can only imagine it's value now in 2014, but yes the smaller creator/suppliers suffer, but it's all good business for the rest. And piracy has not had a major impact on the whole, in fact I have read business is better due to it, quoted as saying the majority try then buy, so maybe sourced illegally, but good judgment and good concience reigns for the majority by the looks of it, and they go out and buy the original. I am an opensource proponent and supporter, using mainly Linux (currently Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander) with FlightGear and X-Plane, keeping FS9 and FSX Acceleration on a Windows 7 dual boot drive, so I have a different outlook, on copyright, patent etc. I have had them both running via Wine (creates a psuedo/fake Windows environment to run Windows only apps) on Linux with good success, so I'm not really locked into Windows, but keep it for my customer support. If the whole world could think and use their digital medium this way, we would not have an issue with piracy and theft. Piracy thrives where prices and access of content are too high and inaccessible for many. Sort these two issues out and piracy will become a non-issue and maybe disappear altogether. So I don't have the same issue with license and wondering if I am I on the right side of the law etc, as Linux and the majority of it's software add-ons are opensourced and free, so easy for me to have a clear concience and have more funds available to buy the stuff I really want. FlightGear is a big example of this as a flightsim, opensourced and totally free, even to modify and add-on. I have been purchasing X-Plane since version 7 to present day 10, and I invest heavily into this SIM, now relegating MSFS to the available freeware, I rarely buy payware for these SIM's now. And those of us that use these opensource products have another great spin-off, we have very little issues with malware destruction etc. even from bad torrents, as this topic is discussing. Signing off as I hit the sack, will catch up on Monday.Regards Link to post Share on other sites
TheeAviationist 18 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 solution, buy PMDG. Link to post Share on other sites
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