twright 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi guys! I'd like to create some repaints for the JustFlight Flying Club Warrior of aircraft that are at my local flying club at Biggin (G-BOTI, G-BNXT, G-BTNH or G-BSXA). However I have never repainted an aircraft before (and haven't got a clue how to do it!) so require a little help with how to get started! Do you need Photoshop to create good quality repaints (I assume so)? Also I assume you need photos of the actual aircraft you wish to paint to use as textures? If so, which sides and how big/closeup do the pictures have to be? Many thanks, Tom Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi Tom, You really need a program that uses layers so that you can build the paint up from loads of different components. Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop are the most common payware programs but the latter is extremely expensive. If you just want to try it out then try Paint.net a freeware program which I think has layers http://www.getpaint.net/download.html I have a tutorial you can download. It is not written by me but the website I got it from years ago is no longer present. It deals with repainting the POSKY 737-700 but the method is the same. You can download it here Also, there is a program you can buy called FS repaint, that is quite good but only allows you to paint over other repaints rather than creating from scratch. I hope this helps, good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Thanks Mutley! That tutorial is good, but how would I go about creating a real world livery - one from a photo, instead of drawing on the lines and colours etc, using the freeware Paint.net? Thanks again, Tom Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Tom, Most people use airliners.net or jetphotos.net or airfighter.com to get the real world colours and design. Things like airline logos can be Googled the rest is down to your artistic ability! You can cut and paste anything onto the body like I did with a film WOTW from a couple of years ago. (Sorry about the size) A bit over the top but good fun to do, it's just a case of experimentation. You really do need to know your way around the paint program you are using as this is the hardest aspect of the whole thing. Converting the textures for FS use is the easy bit. I am sure with a little investigation you will get the idea, I see someone on JF has posted a link to Project Opensky that may well be worth looking at too. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 That's an incredible livery! I've tried to build a few objects for the freeware train simulator BVE which involves the need for photographs to be used as textures for the object - that's why I was getting confused! I gather from the tutorials now that for FS aircraft you only use photo's for reference, but still paint the livery onto the aircraft yourself. I'll try painting a livery for the Warrior - I'll try and download the time limited demo of Photoshop to do this and see how I get on! Many thanks, Tom Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 You are right Tom the photos are just for reference so the rest is your artistic ability! You can overlay photographs like I did for the above livery, I got the design from the poster advertising the film. You seem to be getting the idea now :clap: Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Cool! The only thing now is getting some software to do it! I don't think I can pay $650 for Photoshop! This is the aircraft I want to paint: http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1011130 but it's complicated because the lines aren't straight and the silver stripe is almost pearlescent! How you would paint this?! Thanks, Tom Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Tom, Photoshop is a professional program at a professional price. Paint Shop Pro will do almost everything Photoshop will do. The latest version is Paint Shop Pro V12, I started on PSP V7 and there's not a lot of difference, you may be able to get it really cheap? It's the sort of thing you will probably use a lot once you own it! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 This is the aircraft I want to paint: http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1011130 but it's complicated because the lines aren't straight and the silver stripe is almost pearlescent! How you would paint this?! The pen tool using bezier curves I would guess? That is quite a difficult livery to do for a first try but it is possible. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
grth_bbtt 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 i done a repaint of bsxa not long ago....looks poor if i admit :clap: just search it on avsim as its the only reapaint of it on there. Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 done a repaint of bsxa not long ago....looks poor if i admit It's not bad! If I'm sticking to Biggin Hill ones I might do BTNH instead, as it's similar to BSXA but blue. Those two are easier because they have straight stripes, rather than BOTI and BNXT which have 'swirly ribbon markings'! Have you flown in BSXA or any of the others there by any chance? BSXA is the nicest I think because it has nicer upholstered seats inside. BNXT has a GNS430 on the panel though! Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Hi again! I downloaded a free 30 day trial of Adobe Photoshop CS3, and was having a go at repainting the Flying Club Warrior in the colours of G-BSXA (fairly simple I thought because it consists of a lower red part and a white upper part with a couple of straight red stripes down the side!) I intended to follow the tutorial from the POSKY forum on painting the LVLD 767, but do it for the Warrior. I created textures in Aeropaint, but instead of being plain white, they were still in the colours of the default FC Warrior. Also, it didn't have the layers set up and I'm a bit stuck as to how to work the layers out so the paint just covers the aircraft, but leaves the skin effects (rivets etc) showing. Basically the Paint kit for the Flying Club aircraft is different to that of the Level D one! Can you help please?! Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Hi Tom, I have never used Aeropaint, have you downloaded the layered paintkit for Photoshop here?- http://www.justflight.com/faqs.asp?drdP ... #Update302 There should be all the base textures for the Flying Club aircraft. Then you should roughly be able to use the same principles as they do for the LVLD and POSKY tutorials. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
twright 0 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Ah I didn't see that. That's what I need! Cheers Mutley! Link to post Share on other sites
Longbeard 0 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I paint a lot of race cars for a sim racing league that I own, and I have always used Photoshop, but I have been told that GIMP is a decent alternative, and it's free. You can check it out at http://www.gimp.org/ Link to post Share on other sites
SlimNasty 0 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I love that WOTW paintjob, where you find that one, have you got a link? Speak Soon Phil Link to post Share on other sites
Edward Longe 3 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I have always used FS Repaint by Abacus and it is very good for altering colours etc and it has allowed me to do some basic repaints. However I am going to try my hand at doing some more conplex repints. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,492 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I love that WOTW paintjob, where you find that one, have you got a link? Speak Soon Phil Hi Phil, This was a re-paint I made from scratch for the PMDG 737-800 a couple of years ago. I sourced the graphics from the movie web site. Sadly I no longer have the re-paint (Or the aircraft) and I didn't upload it anywhere. Sorry Link to post Share on other sites
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