steveP 6 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Hi all, I do not seem to have one of the test flight navaids ie TCO VOR I'm using FSX. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated. Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 943 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Steve, The TCO VOR exists in a default install of FS9, FSX, and P3D. If you have any add-on scenery in that area, or use an updated Navigraph database, it is likely that these add-ons have changed the VOR designator, or removed the VOR all together. The TCO VOR is co-located with Temuco Airport (SCTC). If you can't resolve the VOR issue, adjust the test flight to overfly SCTC on an adjusted bearing direct to the VLD VOR and start timing as you cross the runway at SCTC. Cheers Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites
steveP 6 Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks for the swift reply Andrew, I've added the VOR to FSX (using ADE + SDK pack). I've the updated BGL if anyone wants it . Now I think I'm ready to give the flight a try. All the best 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 943 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Steve, Do you know what or who "stole" the VOR? Link to post Share on other sites
steveP 6 Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Andrew Godden said: Steve, Do you know what or who "stole" the VOR? Not really sure Andrew, but I do use this Navdata update http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html . Could be Orbx I guess. Still it's more likely to be something I've done since I didn't see any other posts regarding a missing navaid. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 It seems, as is almost always true in these cases, that the real-world today has diverged from the world circa 2005-6 that is represented in stock FSX. Today, the VOR TCO (114.0 MHz - N1*48.88'; W78*44.87') is co-located with airport SKCO, not SCTC as it was in the stock FSX. SCTC is in fact, at S38*45.96'; W72*38.18', some considerable distance from TCO's current location. This is an ongoing problem with FSX in all its flavors - for most of us, current real world data, charts, ect. cause confusion unless the FSX databases can be updated to reflect the real world. I guess there are some utilities that do that, but their use is still not a 100% fix because of changes in magnetic variation and the consequent re-numbering of runways at some airports. The available fixes fix navaids and such but have no effect on airports or magnetic variation within FSX, so part of the problem remains even when the navaids database has been updated to reflect the real-world today. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
steveP 6 Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 @allardjd check this: http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids.html. As you can see for many years now this guy has supplied our community with navdata, and Magvar, all free! Quick question for anyone 'in the know'; is the navdata supplied with P3D current and updatable using say navigraph? all the best 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,497 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hi Steve, I think if anyone wants to bring flight sim navdata more in line with the real world then that is good. However, I feel pretty sure the stock P3D navdata is not far removed from the original FSX, that introduces many variables to the MEBAR which we can't really cater for. So we have to work with what came with the base sims. Looking on the positive side, it adds more of a challenge to work with VOR and NDB coordinates rather than a quick reference from flight sim? Happy days! Link to post Share on other sites
Goblin 51 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 14:27, allardjd said: It seems, as is almost always true in these cases, that the real-world today has diverged from the world circa 2005-6 that is represented in stock FSX. Today, the VOR TCO (114.0 MHz - N1*48.88'; W78*44.87') is co-located with airport SKCO, not SCTC as it was in the stock FSX. SCTC is in fact, at S38*45.96'; W72*38.18', some considerable distance from TCO's current location. Yeah, I'm flying the MEBAR in X-Plane and I used the 114.0 MHz VOR. My numbers are messed up in the Target times; flight time should have been 16.8 rather than 15.5. No big deal though, I'm just enjoying the flights. Kind of wondering about the VOR's over the course though... Maybe it'll get more interesting?... I might fly a second Aircraft in P3D; sure do like my A2A Skylane. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,314 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Hi Goblin, welcome to the forums here. If you believe their was a mistake made in the time recorded please contact the rally coordinators here and they will be happy to help you. I agree on the A2A's Skyline, it's a nicely modeled and coded aircraft, just send in a new test time and pilot registration here. Enjoy the flights and I'm sure they will vary in difficulty and show some more great scenic areas and test your piloting skills. Link to post Share on other sites
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