hurricanemk1c 195 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Agreed! Let's have that great repaint (for the team!) Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Good luck chaps. I’ll be watching the Mutley team’s progress with great interest :001_th_smiles89: Cheer’s…Graham… Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 BTW, you should get a 27 knot tail wind on the Test Flight if you're at 13500 ft. Are you sure of that? You will get about a 27% advantage over IAS from the effects of TAS at that height but there was no wind for the test flight. John Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 John, I loaded the Test Flight situation files before taking off and climbing to 13500 ft. At the start, there was little/no wind, but above 10000 ft a strong (tail) wind developed, as you can see from this: I checked the weather and it confirmed the high altitude breeze! Maybe it's missing from FS9?!? Cheers - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yes - I can confirm John's view - maybe it is missing from FS9! Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 It didn't happen with me. I had the Shift-Z info up. Also my time over the course was as expected with the IAS and TAS I calculated. Hmmm. Does Andrew know? John Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 It didn't happen with me. I had the Shift-Z info up. Also my time over the course was as expected with the IAS and TAS I calculated. Hmmm. Does Andrew know? John ... with over 70% of entries using FSX, whose Test Flight time may be reduced by the tail-wind, it'll make for some interesting results, eh?!? As the DH104 hasn't got ground-speed (TAS) indication, I had to 'deduct' the wind-speed mentally during the Test Flight and reduce considerably the throttle setting to get near Kieran's 35 minutes... Maybe Andrew put this FSX/SX9 difference in deliberately? We should be told! Ciao - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I was getting GS from the DME off the VOR at SKIP. I had 118 KIAS and about 145 GS, exactly what you'd expect at 13,500 with no wind. I didn't have a TAS readout, but that's about what what it would be. John Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I went to Bogota yesterday for some screenshots for the newsletter - used the Carenado C-210 with full tanks and forgot that the default setup is for pilot and 3 pax. I used almost all of the 12,000 + foot runway - could get it off but could not climb out of ground effect. Ugly. Removing the pax weight (retained full tanks) and a notch of flaps made a difference. Could climb at 90 KIAS and 500 fpm. Can only get about 22" of MP with the most careful leaning. It's an ugly place to not be burning Jet A.. John Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Dai, John highlighted the "tailwind" issue. I have been flying the Test Flight in FSX for the last two days and haven't had a taillwind, or any wind for that matter, develop. I have just tested again in FS9 and FSX and nothing. So, I have no explanation. The file was created using the "Clear Skies" weather setting which provides a standard setting at all altitudes (or at least should). There has been no mention of it in the Forums either. Another one for the FSX mystery basket! Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Dai, I've triple-checked in FS9. When I load Andrew's "GARSA 2011 - Test Flight" file from the Select A Flight page and then go to the World -> Weather page from the cockpit top-line menu I see the "Weather Themes" radio button selected and the top item in the list "Clear skies (clears all weather)" highlighted. You might consider asking Andrew for a do-over on the test flight time. John Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Has anyone created the full route in plan-g yet? If so could you maybe upload it to the downloads section for us all? I'll try and download the Dove tomorrow and have a play Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Not the full route, but I can do it reasonably quickly Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Excellent work, Kieran - Thanks for uploading! I've also uploaded my IFR version for GARSA, with some possible VOR/ADF waypoints. Times are for Dove at 110 KIAS. @ Andrew - thanks for changing my DC-3 Test Flight Time - 140 knots is much more realistic for me! :th_smiles73: Cheers - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 A great start Dai by the looks of it! Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Team Mutley Latest... Leg 1 completed - Bogota SKBO to Ocana SKOC - Flight Time in DH104 Dove = 107.03 minutes. Fairly easy flight, except for the landing at SKOC, which came as a bit of a surprise! Here we are on the base leg: And then the last turn to line up: Thank Heavens the Dove behaves herself - like a true Lady! Leg 2 is under way - will post some shots when completed... Cheers - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,487 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Good show Dai, well done. Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thank Heavens the Dove behaves herself - like a true Lady! Yes, she behaves excellently - haven't stalled her yet in the high altitudes! A pair of good shots Dai - thanks for posting! Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Good shots Dai. I may fly my legs early and send them to Joe for uploading when the time is right Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 What I'm seeing/hearing so far from others is that the terrain in FSX is a bit more humane than what I'm seeing in FS9. My second leg "Proficiency Rating" is going to be abysmal - or worse. Terrain prevented me from turning on course for about 20 miles after takeoff, eating up all my reserve time and then some. I was about thirteen minutes late on a fairly short leg. Dai - I stole one of your post photos and put it in the last issue of the OFSC newsletter, in an article called "Air Rally 101". I did give you credit in a little note at the bottom corner of the photo. John Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Team Mutley - GARSA Leg 2 Completed. Again, another 'surprise' at the end of Leg 2 - this time a descent from 12500 ft, coming over the final ridge just above the foliage, to the airfield, 6000 ft below in, yes, you guessed, another quarry! Brilliant choice, Andrew! Here we are coming over the ridge with SKLA below: Base leg, after dropping 4500 ft: Finding the quarry entrance on final: "Will you go down?!?" - trying to lose height over the runway: And, lastly, all of us cooling off - her Ladyship included - with a beer from the fridge: Team Mutley Leg 2 Flight Time = 46.57 minutes. Not too bad... :th_smiles73: Over to you, Chuck! Good Luck, mate! Ciao - Dai. P.S. Thanks for the screen shot on your Newsletter, John! Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 OK - thanks Dai - I didn't even realise I had Leg 3! Ah well, fly it tomorrow after school! Just been flying Rob Richardson's Shackleton - excellent but it hasto have Gary Jones' sound pack! Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,487 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Epic flight Dai, well done. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 yes, you guessed, another quarry! Brilliant choice, Andrew! Dai, What!!! Another quarry? :biggrin: Didn't you know that's where they get the cocaine from. Colombia is littered with disused cocaine quarries. As it is naturally occurring near the surface, and no deeper than about 750 ft, it doesn't take long for a site to become exhausted. The best use of these disued sites is airfields and airports and they have virtually paid for themselves before flying operations commence. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 ...Colombia is littered with disused cocaine quarries. As it is naturally occurring near the surface, and no deeper than about 750 ft, it doesn't take long for a site to become exhausted. The best use of these disued sites is airfields and airports and they have virtually paid for themselves before flying operations commence. Cheers Andrew And I didn't think that "droll" was in the Oz vocabulary - thanks, Andrew! Hwyl - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
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