UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I know it could take me a day to reinstall everything again but at least it will be clean and tidy again. At the moment I have win 7 64bit and FSX+Addons all installed on same hard drive. I've heard installing them both on separate drives can help performance - this makes sense to me and on paper seems reasonable enough. Has anyone experienced both ways and what benefits did you see? Cheers, Jim Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,495 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hi Jim, I have always kept flight sim on it's own drive so it's more tidy therefore efficient. However, I cannot say I have ever seen a performance gain, I guess with the high spec of machines nowadays that negates any noticeable difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre 28 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Think long and hard about what you hope to gain from this Jim. It's a very long process re-installing patching etc then there's all the fine tweaks you made or forgotten you've made. I'm in the middle of my own enforced reinstall and it's a P.I.A You have to be careful installing too much stuff at once and regular reboots are advised which adds to the times. I was lucky in some respects as I keep all my downloads on a separate drive so I haven't had that pain but someone I know had all the downloading to do as well which is ok if you have a good connection (which I haven't) Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Think long and hard about what you hope to gain from this Jim. It's a very long process re-installing patching etc then there's all the fine tweaks you made or forgotten you've made. I'm in the middle of my own enforced reinstall and it's a P.I.A You have to be careful installing too much stuff at once and regular reboots are advised which adds to the times. I was lucky in some respects as I keep all my downloads on a separate drive so I haven't had that pain but someone I know had all the downloading to do as well which is ok if you have a good connection (which I haven't) Yeah luckily I'm the same, I have all my downloads on a separate drive so should be a case of installing what I use at the moment and ignoring a lot of it! Hardest part would b the config tweaks but I don't mind losing that and build up over time again. Might do a list tonight as to what would need to b installed again and make a decision. Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 not sure about FSX and theOS as joe says, but I keep most of my large scenery on seperate drive where can - supposed to aid a bit 'cus of accesses - course, if you've got SSDs not a lot of diff. No SSD's here - my system is a bit dated with no intent to upgrade I have a backup of my current setup so I think I'm goin to give it a whirl and if all else fails revert back. Goin to do this wen I get 10mins (or few hours) spare Link to post Share on other sites
jaydor 345 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 A word of advice Jim. Before you re-install FSX preferably on a seperate drive. Make sure you download all the updates for Windows, even if you have to spend a morning checkin for the latest downloads. After each down load and install do it agian as it does miss items, so you have to do it about 3 or 4 times untill it can find no more.. Windows has to be in 100% in good condition to run FSX and most people will blame FSX for a problem, when the problem lies in Windows itself.. James Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 hehe, it not so much misses them, its because some updates have to be done before others. As i found reloading Vista. took far longer to install all the updates and service pack, as you say rebooting etc. than it took for intitial setup. I've found it a lot easier since to let Winows autoupdate. you can alwasy review updates before installatio after all. I don't think FSX on separate drive is as important as installing it in a separate discrete folder - and not in Program Files. And 'er, you'll note the boy Jim is running XP - been some time since updates for that I believe? Actually I am running dual boot system xp and win 7 - FSX bein the only thing on win 7 OS! Im going to have a think about it and decide! Cheers guys Link to post Share on other sites
jaydor 345 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes you are right Mike, I did not notice Jim was xP, but still it is important to get Windows running correctly as FSX uses Windows for all the instructions. So Jim, still get Windows running sweet before you set up FSX.. If I remember right was not FSX designed for xP? Link to post Share on other sites
jaydor 345 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Now then as regard to the Windows auto update. I have disabled that, as if windows decides to upload when you are in FSX it causes all sorts of problems and those problems can be related to why a lot of peoples FSX will do a Doodle Ally and get corrupted. That was the cause of a lot of my problems in the past now eliminated by doing updates manually.. I think that is one of the reasons when simmers say that all of a sudden FSX is not behaving when it worked properly say up until yesterday.. Link to post Share on other sites
jaydor 345 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 The idea is to stop all background programs running when in FSX, I know this is to allow more power to the CPU but also to stop any cross contamination of programs. Remember it's all IOOIIIOIOOOOIOIOIOOOIOIOIOOOII in computer launguage and it only needs one of the I or O's to be put in the wrong place accidently and then you have a corruption. I do not go much on power add ons to FSX but there is one exception and that is FSX Booster, That is a very good program to use with FSX as it closes some background programs for you. here the links: http://www.737ng.gr/Booster.html And where to buy . As they say in China "You buy, velly cheap" http://secure.simmar...x-booster.phtml James PS Jim hope you are following? Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes cheers thanks - I have gone for it Not a fully rebuild but removed all FSX and addons ready for re-install. I am going to install FSX in C:/FSX and install all addons etc as usual. The only other thing is I am going to put whatever scenery as I can on a second hard drive (maybe even planes too) but create one of them link things ... http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?59145-Take-your-scenery-off-your-SSD-drive-to-save-space-by-P38man This should hopefully allow for one hard drive to load textures of scenery and planes while the other deals with FSX. I have made a backup of the previous install and if all goes wrong I will go back but hopefully this should be OK. Hopefully it will be an improvement in blurries and other glitches but we will see. Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 OK re-install going well just doing bare minimum at the moment to run AH and fly the company planes - I will do the rest another day Link to post Share on other sites
dogtrack 346 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Free and a better pedigree...... http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/ available for 32 & 64 bit machines, if you want to close background processes. Then restore them after your flight. Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Ok so just an update - I've moved scenery to a separate hard drive and did a flight. My FPS went a bit higher than before, never drops below 10 even with a thunder storm going! 10 is my minimum with my hardware bit I tend to aim for 20ish. Next task I am thinking of tryin is putting all FSX folder install on separate hard drive see how that is! I also have not done any config tweaks etc so still got that to try too. All going well Link to post Share on other sites
PanzerFodder 0 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hey Jim. Think that I told you about this defrag program before when I got it last Christmas, I am now convinced it helps speed things up a bit on my system as a whole, and helps FSX to load faster. http://www.disktrix.com/Can_Your_Defrag_Software_Do_This_1.htm not sure if the i7 8GB ram men will notice any speed gains, but on my moderate spec pc every little bit helps . Cheer's...Graham... Link to post Share on other sites
UKJim 502 Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hey Jim. Think that I told you about this defrag program before when I got it last Christmas, I am now convinced it helps speed things up a bit on my system as a whole, and helps FSX to load faster. http://www.disktrix....e_Do_This_1.htm not sure if the i7 8GB ram men will notice any speed gains, but on my moderate spec pc every little bit helps . Cheer's...Graham... Thanks but I use O&O defrag have for a long time. It does help I am sure too but not by much tbh Link to post Share on other sites
Laurie_LTW 0 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 On my last reinstall I used an SSD for the OS7-64 and a 500 gb SATA for FX10 and all the other add ons. I have to say that I have seen a difference in so much as it runs smoother and FPS on average are better. I also use Ultimatmate Defrag. How ever I still get this dam critical error on hitting menus but I am still working on that issue. I am certain it relates to the uiautomation.dll file, getting the right one for this OS-64 bit working is a challenge. Cheers LaurieLTW Link to post Share on other sites
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