Dreamliner becoming a nightmare

[Quickmarch 488]

Start out by reading this: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/travel/travel-news/dreamliner-becoming-a-nightmare-20130127-2deug.html. There are others, but this one will do for starters.

Ya gotta love journalists! What a bunch of w***ers! The article is just filler. No information at all.

It's not going to stop me getting aboard one of Mr. Boeing's products.

YMMV,

March

[hurricanemk1c 195]

I'm now getting Error 404 - Page Not found. Prehaps they found this topic.....

[allardjd 1,853]

Like Kieran, I can't get the article.  Did they use the term "nose dive"?

 

Hopefully this will take less time and expense to correct that the Whale wing cracks.  It's looking more and more like lithium batteries should be grounded, either as cargo or as a built in part of airplanes.

 

John

[Quickmarch 488]

I just checked this post out-using wifi in Changi Airport.

I ran across the article this morning and simply copied the URL and pasted it into the original post.

Look up the Brisbane Times http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ and do a search for "Dreamliner". I found it that way, tonight.

Here's the full URL. May or may not work-http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/execute_search.html?text=Dreamliner&ss=brisbanetimes.com.au

Sorry about that.

Cheers,

March

[britfrog 180]

it is quite clear now that Boeing knew they had a problem since 2006 when the US battery assembly factory burnt down because of a runaway /overheating battery. Since then we have had 3 freight a/c destroyed by this type of battery in the hold. There are numerous cases also of personal communication equipment overheating and in some cases catch fire whilst being used to play games on a/c. There is no doubt that this type battery are a danger not only to a/c but to the users as well and it is time to replace them with something more reliable.

In the case of Boeing this can simpy be done by replacing this rubbish with lead acid  (conventional ) batteries which have served us for countless years faultlessly. The small weight penalty 30kgs and redesign of the battery box could be sorted overnight However the longer they try to stick to the original batteries the longer other airlines are not going to take up their options  especially as not only the FAA and The senate are making a review of the whole procedure. Whilst I have grave reservations of the fuselage construction, I do not want to fly in an overgrown Revelll Kit , I think many corners were cut by the FAA and Boeing Hierarchy to get this already way behind schedule a/c into the air and certified , commercial pressures are huge but safety should not be overlooked just for a fast buck. I have a feeling that if the enquiry is given teeth we may well find that it will be quite a while before these a/c are given the green light.

There are altogether too many similarities between this and the challenger accident which go way deeper than just faulty products.

 

http://fr.flightaware.com/squawks/view/1/7_days/popular_new/31583/787_battery_blew_up_in_06_test_burned_down_building

 

http://fr.flightaware.com/squawks/view/1/7_days/popular_new/31546/Lithium_ion_batteries_may_be_banned_from_some_airplanes_cargo_after_Boeing_787_fires

 

This latter article will give you some idea how "the authorities" work or dont

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/f-a-a-rules-make-electronic-devices-on-planes-dangerous/

 

and finally:

 

I note that the FAA are finally reviewing autopilot  procedures , ie when it is legal to engage/disengage an autopilot on a commercial flight which is welcome in view of the new autopilot RNAV, gps improvents in the last 15 years

the last review was carried out in 1964!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what planet are they on?

 

 

[Kasper 14]

Granted that this article is not very informative.

I did read an informative article in Newsweek by Clive Irving documenting the negative changes inside the Boeing Company since bean counters took over the leadership of the company instead of engineers.

This caused Boeings most celebrated engineer Alan Mulally (from the 777) to resign and go to and ultimately rescue Ford. Boeing is currently for the frst time in its history managed by a complete outsider in the plane making business - Jim McNerney from P&G, McKinsey, GE and 3M.

This all happened around 2003 just before the time the Dreamliner was dreamt up.

So, I will gladly fly in any Boeing product designed in Seatle. The dreamlliner first has to prove that putting a bean counter as CEO of an aircraft maker actually delivers the desired result.

 

Clive Irving is a long time Boeing follower and authored "The Triumph of the 747".