britfrog 180 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 A few years ago, as many of my stories start, I used to have my aztec serviced at rushett farm, near Chessington zoo. The runway there was very short (400m) so one had to be on ones toes to land there and not run through the fence at the end. However I was able to carry out all the work on my a/c whilst being supervised and signed off, by the engineer there , so cutting costs. At the same time there were other a/c based there , one was a morava L200 or something like that, it was a weird twin with engines that looked like a zlins. However I sort of digress. The owner of one of these twins was a little special, he was known to be a commercial pilot that would fly anything as long as the money was right. There was a lot of bitching behind his back by other pilots because of this guys mannerisms and the way he was , and I have to say he was not my cup of tea but it takes all kinds to make a world. At any rate I met him just after this little escapade and he gave me a photo over the net of the wing of this a/c sadly I lost it some years ago with a p.c. Crash but it does exist somewhere. Here is his story of an incredible event which they all luckily survived from. IT WAS a few seconds after hearing two loud bangs that Martin Emery, the co-pilot, looked out of the cockpit window at the starboard wing of the Boeing 707. He saw first that the outer engine was missing and, peering round further, found that the inner engine had gone, too. The 707 was 32,000ft (9,000m) above the Swiss Alps. But 25 minutes later, in a feat of extraordinary flying skill and a testimony to the strength of the 25-year-old Boeing, it was brought safely to earth. Mr Emery has now given the first full account of the drama on 31 March last year. The 707, owned by Trans Air, a Nigerian company, was fully laden taking mining equipment for Esso from Luxembourg to Timbuktu via Lagos. An hour into the flight, just south of Geneva, the crew heard the two bangs. Mr Emery, 44, a freelance pilot with more than 25 years' flying experience, recalled: 'The turbulence was so bad that we were all strapped into our harnesses. We could see the tops of the clouds. If we had got above them, we would have been out of the turbulence and been OK.' They didn't get there. The two bangs were caused by the inner starboard engine breaking away and then hitting the outer one so hard that it, too, broke off at full power. The initial cause, according to US investigators, was metal fatigue in part of the fitting of the engine to the wing, which made it snap under the strain of the turbulence. A similar accident occurred on the same engine on a Tampa Airlines 707 freighter during take-off at Miami airport three weeks later and resulted in an increase in the frequency of checks for metal fatigue on 707s. The Boeing immediately rolled to the right. 'It would have turned right over but Ingemar (Bergelund, the Swedish captain) held it. He had disconnected the auto pilot, taken over the controls and managed to stop the roll by using the rudder and the ailerons. Even with that immediate corrective action, it still rolled 50 degrees.' During the roll the aircraft fell so fast that it twice went through negative G forces, which could have destroyed it. The cockpit was a frenzy of flashing lights, horns and warning bells. The crew went through the fire drill on both engines, unaware that they were missing. At the end of the drill Mr Emery, sitting in the starboard cockpit seat, looked round to see no fire - and no engines. Incredibly, he had the sang-froid to pick up his camera and take a single photo of the maimed wing: 'The shock of what I saw was numbing. I thought it was the end and I wanted the investigators to see the pictures, as otherwise they would not have believed it. I thought they would find the camera on some mountain top.' He emphasises that it was the combined efforts of the five experienced crew members - himself and the pilot, a British flight engineer, Terry Boone; a Nigerian ground engineer, 'Ike' Nwabudike; and an Icelandic loadmaster, Ingebar Einarssen - that enabled the aircraft to make a successful landing. Mr Emery contacted ground control with a Mayday call and obtained permission to land at Marseilles. The aircraft was steady but losing height relentlessly. It emerged from the higher cloud layer at about 20,000ft (6,000m). The crew managed to get the undercarriage down, which slowed the aircraft, but Mr Bergelund did not dare reduce speed too much, maintaining it at 230 knots (280mph). Anxious to prepare himself for the landing, he handed the controls to Mr Emery: 'It was an incredible thing to do. I've never been shown that much respect in anything I've done. It was mutual trust.' Mr Emery took the aircraft down to about 8,000ft (2,400m), handed the controls back, and then, during a turn to port, saw the military airport of Istres, which has a 14,400ft runway, much longer and wider than Marseilles. Istres instantly gave permission to land but as the 707 came out of cloud near the airport, the military controller said: 'I see you. You have a fire, a fire.' As they made the final descent, they were travelling at nearly 210 knots plus the tailwind, a ground speed of 270mph - 100mph faster than normal landing speed - with fire raging on the starboard wing and most of the hydraulics out of action. They were only able to use maximum reverse thrust on the inner engine, as applying it on the outer would have turned the aircraft. 'The feeling of landing on the runway was indescribably wonderful but it seemed we would not be able to stop,' Mr Emery said. They were saved by the extra length of the runway. No tyres burst on landing but some did as the emergency brakes were applied. Right at the end of the runway the 707 veered off into the scrub, but it came to a halt safely. 'The noise was horrific and the wing was an inferno. I ordered immediate evacuation.' Mr Emery escaped down a rope through the window on his side, burning his hands on the rope but otherwise, like all the crew, he was unscathed. He sat down on the ground, watching the fire crews successfully save the aircraft, and said: 'Thank God, thank Boeing and our beautiful 707.' He says the fact that the aircraft got down was testimony to its brilliant design. The French gave the crew a medical - which showed their heart rates were four times normal - and a slap- up lunch. The engines were found about 800m (2,600ft) apart in a remote forest in the Alps. Mr Emery is reluctant to suggest a cause of the incident, but puts forward two ideas. First, the 707, like the Tampa one, had been hush- kitted, to enable it to comply with US noise regulations, which also involve the aircrafts landing at higher speeds. This, he feels, may cause extra stresses on landing. More fundamentally, he is worried about the weight that freighters carry. He claims that overloading is endemic. 'You can often feel it. You reach take-off speed and the plane takes a while to go up. Just stand at the end of a runway where freighters are taking off and you can see how they struggle to get up,' he said. Mr Emery, who used to work as a pilot for Freddie Laker, owns a light aircraft and is still flying. He recently completed a tour of Africa in a 707, but has only recently stopped having nightmares. He said: 'It was just as much a shock getting down safely as seeing the reality of the initial damage.' And here is the cockpit voice recorder evidence: 8:09:39 RDO-2 Kabo Six Seven One request flight level three euh three zero 8:09:46 CRNA/SE Six Seven One Roger climb level three three zero 8:09:49 CAM-1 Okay! 8:09:49 RDO-2 Cimb six three three zero Six Seven One leaving three... and leaving two nine zero 8:10:03 CAM-2 Okay...(*)..now..(*).. 8:10:10 CAM-2 ..(*)..(*).. 8:10:31 CAM-1 Ya! 8:11:27 [Master warning] 8:11:30 CAM-1 Engine fire! 8:11:31 CAM-2 Number four engine has left the wing! 8:11:34 [Master warning] 8:11:35 CAM-3 ..(*)..gone..(*).., number four..(*)..! 8:11:41 RDO-2 Mayday! Mayday! Mayday! request radar Kabo Six Seven One! 8:11:48 RDO-2 Mayday! Mayday! Mayday! Kabo Six Seven One request radar landing! 8:11:48 [Master warning] 8:11:53 [Master warning] 8:11:53 CRNA/SE Kabo Six Seven One say your level and position sir. 8:11:58 RDO-2 Two seven zero. Request descent radar landing! ... 8:13:45 CAM-2 Clear to descent! We've lost both engines on the right wing! 8:13:55 CAM-1 What? 8:13:55 CAM-2 We've lost both engines! 8:13:58 [Master Warning] 8:13:58 CAM-1 Both engines! CAM-2 Ya! 8:14:02 CAM-2 You turn one eight zero? 8:14:05 CAM-1 I'm trying! 8:14:05 [Master Warning] 8:14:06 CAM-3 We wanna dump fuel? 8:14:08 CAM-1 Yeap dump fuel! 8:14:10 RDO-2 Ah Six Seven One? 8:14:12 CRNA/SE Six Seven One go ahead 8:14:13 RDO-2 We need emergency landing, emergency landing both engines missing right wing emergency landing radar. ... 8:16:18 RDO-2 Descent seven zero request straight-in approach 8:16:21 MC Ah roger proceed direct to Mike Romeo Sierra. What is the nature of our problem? 8:16:22 [Master Warning] 8:16:28 RDO-2 Two engines missing two engines missing structural request straight in landing. 8:16:28 [Master Warning] 8:16:32 MC Ah roger. ... ... ... 8:17:14 How many engine on failure euh seven six seven one? 8:17:19 CAM-2 Two engines missing give me distance to laning and where are we landing Marseille? 8:17:24 MC Affirm euh. ... ... ... 8:29:45 RDO-2 Kabo, we have an airfield what is that airfield? 8:29:49 MA It's a military airfield at your twelve o'clock for six miles 8:29:51 RDO-2 Roger 8:29:51 CAM-2 Can we land there? ... (*) ... 8:29:54 CAM-2 Can we land there? 8:29:55 CAM-1 No 8:29:57 CAM-1 Too short, too short! 8:30:00 RDO-2 How long is the runway on this military airfield? 8:30:01 MA Four thousand meters 8:30:04 CAM-1 Oh yeah, OK 8:30:05 RDO-2 Four thousand meter we can land here? 8:30:06 MA I call you back 8:30:08 RDO-2 We are overhead 8:30:10 MA Affirm 8:30:12 CAM-2 .. (*) ... 8:30:14 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:30:17 CAM-2 ... (*) ... altitude ...? . 8:30:20 CAM-2 I can see it! 8:30:26 RDO-2 It's Salon! 8:30:29 MA Quebec November Kilo do you have visual on this runway? 8:30:32 CAM-1 ... (*) ... 8:30:32 RDO-2 Yes we do, we are overhead we can make left hand pattern for landing 8:30:37 MA It's OK for landing on this runway call this airfield on frequency one two three decimal six, one two three decimal six 8:30:45 RDO-2 One two three six thanks Marseille 8:30:53 RDO-2 Salon airfied mayday traffic Six Seven One 8:30:56 IT Six Seven One, this is Istres, Istres, I receive you five square Istres three three, runway three three in use Fox Echo pressure nine eight five, you are cleared for a downwind arrival sir 8:31:09 RDO-2 Can we make a left turn? Can we make a left turn? Coming down the other runway one five? 8:31:15 IT Affirm sir, clear to make a left turn sir 8:31:17 CAM-1 Okay! 8:31:17 RDO-2 We turn left do you have some radar we are just overhead 8:31:19 CAM-1 What is the wind? 8:31:20 IT Roger you are overhead the airfield and I confirm three three, pressure nine eight five 8:31:27 RDO-2 What's the wind? 8:31:28 IT I confirm the wind is three three zero ten knots gusting one four knots 8:31:34 RDO-2 We make a left hand pattern 8:31:36 IT Affirm you are cleared to make the pattern you want to for runway three three 8:31:41 RDO-2 Do you have some radar? 8:31:42 CAM-2 ... (*) ... 8:31:44 IT I have no radar sir, no visual on you 8:31:47 RDO-2 Ok 8:31:48 CAM-2 ... (*) ... left from the west ... (*) ... 8:31:49 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:31:51 CAM-2 Maintain two hundreds knots minimum! 8:32:06 CAM-2 ... (*) ... 8:32:10 CAM-2 ..?.. west 8:32:13 CAM-1 Yeah 8:32:13 CAM-3 ..(*)..(*).. 8:32:22 IT We have no visual on you six seven one, do you see the runway? 8:32:27 CAM-1 Negative, no! 8:32:27 RDO-2 We just coming out top of clouds, we come to the west of the field we see your runway we turning on to west three thousands ft we are just above clouds and then we see your runway 8:32:37 IT Roger, you are three thousand ft correct? 8:32:40 RDO-2 Yes IT Roger RDO-2 My landing (*) are turned on 8:32:45 IT OK 8:32:47 CAM-3 You see it? 8:32:53 CAM-2 ..?.. engines 8:32:57 CAM-2 ..?.. 8:32:59 CAM-2 Thank you..?.. 8:33:03 CAM-2 We turn left to land 8:33:04 CAM-1 Yes! 8:33:05 CAM-2 Turn left 8:33:09 CAM-1 ..(*)..OK 8:33:10 CAM-2 Turn left to land! 8:33:13 CAM-2 ..?.. 8:33:16 CAM-2 Left turn! 8:33:17 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:33:18 CAM-2 Left turn! 8:33:20 CAM-2 Left! left! 8:33:24 CAM-2 Left turn! 8:33:28 IT Six seven one you have fire on board, six seven one you have fire on board I confirm fire on board 8:33:30 CAM-2 Left! left! 8:33:32 CAM1 Yes! 8:33:33 CAM-3 ..(*).. 8:33:33 RDO-2 Yes 8:33:37 CAM-2 Give me more than a..?.. 8:33:38 CAM-3 [Master Warning] 8:33:39 IT You can take runway one five if you want one five, the wind three two zero ten knots you are cleared direct sir, direct 8:33:45 RDO-2 Direct one five 8:33:48 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:33:49 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:33:50 CAM-2 OK..?.. 8:33:53 CAM-2 Slow down! 8:34:01 CAM-3 [Master Warning] 8:34:08 CAM-1 Lower the flaps! 8:34:13 CAM-3 ..(*).. 8:34:13 IT You are cleared direct sir the last wind three two zero eight knots for runway one five 8:34:14 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:34:16 CAM-1 I take one five! 8:34:20 CAM-3 [Master Warning] 8:34:22 CAM-1 That's OK! 8:34:25 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:34:26 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:04:26 RDO-2 Roger 8:34:27 CAM-1 Select full flaps! 8:34:27 CAM-3 Affirm! 8:34:28 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:34:28 CAM-3 Yes! 8:34:28 CAM-3 [Master Warning] 8:34:30 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:34:33 CAM-2 ..(*)..ruway..(*).. 8:34:35 IT Ok have you, confirm gear have you got the gear down sir? 8:34:38 CAM-3 Yes! 8:34:39 CAM-1 No! 8:34:40 IT Roger roger, you are runway one five, the wind always three two zero, you are on axis, on axis 8:34:40 CAM-3 [Master Warning] 8:34:44 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:34:47 RDO-2 Roger 8:34:48 CAM-2 Three greens, flaps! 8:34:50 CAM-2 I reduce the power for you! 8:34:52 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:34:55 IT Good descent you are on axis 8:34:55 CAM-1 Don't ...(*)..! Don't! RDO-2 Roger 8:35:01 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:02 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:06 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:07 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:10 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:35:10 [Master warning] 8:35:11 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:12 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:13 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:35:15 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:18 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:35:18 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:19 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:20 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:21 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:22 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:23 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:25:24 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:24 CAM-2 Reducing power! 8:35:25 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:26 Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:26 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:35:26 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:35:28 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:35:28 [Master warning] 8:35:29 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:35:29 Glide slope! Glide slope! [GPWS alarm] 8:35:30 CAM-1 Yeah! 8:35:30 [Touchdown] 8:35:39 CAM-2 ..(*).. 8:35:39 CAM-3 OK, both..(*) reverses? 8:35:41 CAM-1 No! 8:35:42 [Thrust reversers] 8:35:50 [Aircraft departed runway] 8:36:14 CAM-2 Cut the engines! 8:36:16 CAM-3 ..(*).reverse..(*).. 8:36:19 CAM-2 I said cut! 8:36:21 CAM-3 ..(*).reverse..(*).. 8:36:28 End of Recording As I said Martin is a bit special, a little bit left of centre field , but if you survive something like that then thats ok by me. I do have a photo of the aftermath which I will post later 3 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Found this on-line... The Boeing 707 took off from Luxembourg at 07:14 for an IFR flight to Kano, carrying 38 tonnes of freight. The aircraft, on a heading of 199deg, when passing VILAR and the VOR of Martigues, was authorized to leave FL290 for FL330. This flight section was performed in IMC in turbulent air. With the throttles at climb power and autopilot engaged the aircraft was flying at 280 knots IAS passing FL320. At this moment, the crew was experiencing severe turbulence and heard a double 'bang'. The aircraft suddenly rolled to the right. The captain disengaged autopilot and struggled to keep control by countering with control stick and rudder pedals. The continuous fire warning system sounded, but could not be switched off by the flight engineer. The first officer noted that the no. 4 engine had separated and sent out a Mayday call (at 08:11). The crew started the descend towards Marseilles and initiated the fuel dumping procedure. During the descent the first officer noted an airfield ahead (which was Istres) and was Marseilles transferred the aircraft to Istres Control. A left hand circuit was flown for a runway 15 landing at Istres. The plane touched down slightly to the left of the centreline at a 190 knots speed. Emergency brakes had to be used to decelerate. The left main gear tyres burst during the landing roll and the flight engineer selected maximum reverse thrust on the no. 2 engine. After a 2300m ground roll, the 707 went off the left side of the runway and stopped 250m further on. The fire on the right wing (which had erupted in the final approach phase) was put out. The landing took place at 08.35, about 24min after engine separation. The aircraft had just been acquired by Trans-Air Service and had started flying on March 3, 1992 after having been stored at Southend since October 24, 1990. Between March 4 and Mach 31 the aircraft had accumulated 116 flying hours in 34 flights. PROBABLE CAUSE: "The accident resulted from the fracture of the right inboard engine pylon fitting, in such conditions that this engine came to hit and tore away the outboard engine. The AD, imposing periodic monitoring of the midspar fitting, proved to be insufficiently efficient." EDIT: Love the last part about "... insufficiently efficient." JDA 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wow! That is some story, superb bit of flying. Reminds me of that Alfred Hitchock episode where that gremlin thing rips apart one of the engines yet only one passenger can see it, when he tries to shoot it he is arrested by the crew and restrained for endangering the aircraft. At the same time one of the engines shuts down and the crew make an emergency landing. when the aircraft is stopped the crew are amazed to see the port outer engine has been shredded exactly as the passenger said! Re Chessington Airport, I used to go in there quite a lot at one time when I first came out of the Navy, I worked for an airfreight company and used to deliver aircraft parts there. (may have even been the parts that serviced your aircraft!) Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Great story, Nigel - Thanks for sharing, Mate! Even the transcript was exciting, especially the GPWS alarms... Cheers - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
hifly 925 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 A magnum opus there Nigel, a great story. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,315 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Exciting story when reading it while sitting in my chair, I'm sure the passengers have different view on their experience though. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think it was a freight run, Brett. Five crew... Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,315 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think it was a freight run, Brett. Five crew... D'oh Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 943 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Exciting story when reading it while sitting in my chair, I'm sure the passengers have different view on their experience though. Brett, You must have dozed off there...maybe your eyes glazed over and rolled into the back of your head! I know you are a teetotaler, so it couldn't have been anything nefarious. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,315 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Haha, I.....been..tri...to......sped.....read....it's.....knot....wor.....out....well. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,498 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks for posting BF, a real value for money post! You should start your own website, seriously! Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks for posting BF, a real value for money post! You should start your own website, seriously! Do you want to get rid of me that badly Joe? Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,498 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 ...No not me BF, you definitely contribute interesting content, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Coffee 2,030 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Very gripping read. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites
hifly 925 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Haha, I.....been..tri...to......sped.....read....it's.....knot....wor.....out....well. I know what happened Brett. You read the first few words and nodded off with your finger on the scroll down and woke up to read the last sentence. It's easily done, I sometimes do it mysezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner 69 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Great reading, gave me goosebumps. Link to post Share on other sites
flybytes 34 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nigel, Nice story & well written. Suspect there are lots more interesting stories in your head - maybe you should publish a compilation! Ray. Link to post Share on other sites
britfrog 180 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nigel, Nice story & well written. Suspect there are lots more interesting stories in your head - maybe you should publish a compilation! Ray. Thanks Ray, I cant take all the credit for that one but I thought that it may amuse some of us. However I am now writing a story about a flight from Lagos back to the Uk flying an HS 125, where I am P2 and that was interesting to say the least so watch this space. Link to post Share on other sites
flybytes 34 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nigel, Used to work with some Icelandic cargo hauling pilots, apart from being some excellent pilots, their stories of 'in-flight' events were also amazing. That air accident you so well described is remarkably similar to the El Al loss of engines which happened over Amsterdam on a 747-200. Unlike the incident you so eloquently described, the El Al incident resulted in a tragic crash, which should have been recoverable (although at a much lower altitude & less time to react). Having worked with B747 El Al pilots shortly after, they strongly took on board training to recover from a similar accident. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites
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