Jess-b 420 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hey guys, So I'm trying to find out a bit about the early A320's. Specifically, I'm trying to work out what the hell this extra instrument found on some A320's is. If you take a look at the picture below, on the left of the captains PFD and below the cockpit lighting panel is a gauge that I can't identify. Anyone got any clue what it is?<img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/01/27/image.jpg" alt="image.jpg" border="0">Both the captain and co pilot have this gauge. Any ideas guys. Jess B Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Cabin altitude? John Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 No.....it's a CHRONOMETER. You should read the review on the Boeing 737 Chronometer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 No.....it's a CHRONOMETER. I guess they can charge more than if they called it a CLOCK. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Andrew, I don't think so. I've only seen this on two or three aircraft, all early frames. John, it could be, but I've not seen it clearly enough to work out what it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Check out this video. Around 5 minutes in you see the gauge on the captains side. Annoyingly this is an A319 which muddies the water even more. Plus if you look above the captains side, what the hell is that draw thing? Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Some other candidates - RMI; Radio Altimeter. Not sure the busboys would allow anything as archaic as those aboard, but maybe. John Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Another likely candidate. As it happens John, the DDRMI below the standby artificial horizon is being removed from some aircraft. Apparently it's not required with all the modern tech on board. It's kinda sad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's kinda sad. +1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Andrew, I don't think so. I've only seen this on two or three aircraft, all early frames. Jess, You know I was being a tad flippant and more so in reference to the subject review which is such a favourite - one of the best ever.....about a clock!!! You question had me spend a good part of the day researching every image and video I could find, but I am still none the wiser, and what ever that "drawer" thing is on the upper dash is also puzzling. Though I did like the the suction cup holder device on the windshield...maybe that's for the GPS. Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I know you were being flippant mate. Lol. Yes that gauge is a mystery. I have the full DVD and I'll be damned if I can find what it is. One reason I'm very interested in the stupid little thing is I'm due to pick up some real panels on Friday, which contain the cut out for the instrument. The place I'm getting them from just breaks Aircraft and has no clue what the parts really are. ( I had to show him a picture of the centre MIP because he didn't know what the MIP was.). But I'm also really curious what it is in general. It's a very odd part. Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Got it. It's an AoA gauge apparently. Very unusual to see it too. Here's a pic. <img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/01/28/image.gif" alt="image.gif" border="0"> Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Ah, the US Navy would love it. Naval aircraft have AoA gauges and something called and AoA indexer, which are among the primary references for the pilot during the approach to a carrier landing. Given the Airbus control law schemes, I'd think that an AoA meter would be the epitome of useless information, which is probably why they were not fitted in the later models. Then again, maybe if AF 447 had them they'd have figured out what they were doing wrong for over four minutes - - - nah, probably not. John Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Glad you got an answer Jess - looked at the training poster in college today (yes, we have such things including a cutaway of an Allision turboprop engine) and it wasn't on it. Interesting stuff Link to post Share on other sites
hlminx 301 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Glad you got an answer Jess - looked at the training poster in college today (yes, we have such things including a cutaway of an Allision turboprop engine) and it wasn't on it. Interesting stuff Wow... wish the college I went to had that..mind you that was many moons ago!! Link to post Share on other sites
wain 879 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Jess will we be seeing this soon?..... how far down the road with tis project are you now? Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Glad you got an answer Jess - looked at the training poster in college today (yes, we have such things including a cutaway of an Allision turboprop engine) and it wasn't on it. Interesting stuff Wow... wish the college I went to had that..mind you that was many moons ago!! Yeah it's in the space that's officially allocated to the EASA approved courses, and we have our own hangar. Not that I actually need to use any of it! https://www.flickr.com/photos/111752039@N08/albums/72157657554202104 Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Wayne, it's a continual 'WIP'. With new parts coming in to replace older parts. For now, there's a big conflict with getting the sim built verses moving home in six months. So any work I do now has to be thought out with a view to packing it safely when the time comes. At the minute, I have a flyable sim, with 90% of the main structure in place. But it'll need a complete rebuild once I move. I expect at least another two years work till its sitting like the real thing. In the meantime, my little quest to find out what that damn gauge was has paid off, and a real AoA gauge is on its way curtesy of eBay. I'll post some pictures once it arrives. Best wishes, Jess B Link to post Share on other sites
wain 879 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Sounds like a labour of love. Glad you found the gauge though. Havent the room myself for something like that but I do admire people that take the time to build cockpits etc... I will make so with my various Saitek items.. . Wayne Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Kemp 18 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 So happy to see this answer, I hope your plans run true Jess and all goes well for you, meantime I am still trying to find my own clock, (just to wake me up though, so many late starts) lol Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Well, as luck would have it, this arrived today. <a href="http://fs-snaps.com/image/4GOn"><img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/02/04/image.md.jpg" alt="image.md.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://fs-snaps.com/image/4VE9"><img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/02/04/imagee34b9.md.jpg" alt="imagee34b9.md.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://fs-snaps.com/image/4wwA"><img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/02/04/image8e302.md.jpg" alt="image8e302.md.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://fs-snaps.com/image/4z9q"><img src="http://fs-snaps.com/images/2016/02/04/image64472.md.jpg" alt="image64472.md.jpg" border="0"></a> 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wain 879 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 nice one, perfect fit too...... Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Coffee 2,030 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Nice aquire! That is gonna be a superb panel. Have you considered continuing past the panel? Like, adding wings, and engines...registration numbers/Empennage? If so, in hindsight you might wish you had made a cessna or piper panel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hmmm. It's labeled in Greek. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,300 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Nice find and it looks great, good work. Link to post Share on other sites
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