TheeAviationist 18 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Relevant Information: https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20161220-0 (not sure about how many vids are repeated) Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,487 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Shocking... Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I wonder what the hell happened there! Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Coffee 2,030 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Wings and tanks must have come of early in the crash or no one would have survived that fireball. Can't imagine the horror of being crew on that thing during that crash. If this was a Company caused Overload/Greed incident...shame. No Classic Jet let alone crew lives are worth a Few Dollars More. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,285 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Not sure what to think about that one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheeAviationist 18 Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Seems like it was overweight, the runway was pretty short even for a 727 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,285 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 But why the big turn? Craziness at it's best. Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Coffee 2,030 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Right Flap ripped off after hitting the perimeter fence, resulting in loss of lift on that side. Left wing went high forcing the turn...damn. 5 Crew died, 1 in critical as per below: http://www.jacdec.de/2016/12/21/2016-12-20-aerosucre-boeing-727-200f-crashed-near-puerto-carreno/ Link to post Share on other sites
SEATAC 400 Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Sad. Both for the people and another 727 gone. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Looking at the footage I too thought she was overweight, the 727 is normally a sprightly performer but this aircraft clearly had issues right from the start. Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Coffee 2,030 Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 If company 'policy or custom' overloaded that plane, I hope some authority takes away any remaining classic jets they own, and their licensees to fly planes Before they kill more people with them. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 If the smoke/vapor trailing behind was hydraulic fluid, which is likely after having an inboard flap ripped off, they didn't have a chance. If it was fuel and the hydraulics were not affected, MAYBE they could have flown out if it by exceeding the EPR ratings for the engines, but still pretty iffy. It was going to be a high-drag situation no matter what, with the necessary aileron/rudder offset to counteract the roll moment from the asymmetrical flaps. A too-high takeoff weight could certainly explain it. Given that the nose was up at somewhere near the correct pitch angle, it was probably not a CG issue. The elevators appeared to be nearly full up when they went through the fence. Field elevation is only 180' MSL so not a factor adversely affecting performance. That's a sad one on a couple of levels - people and a fine old airframe both destroyed. John Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,285 Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Sad to see any loss of life, will have to wait and see what the experts find out. Always a keen eye John, thanks for the insight. Link to post Share on other sites
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