allardjd 1,853 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Be careful to check that destination airfield before accepting the job. Water runways aren't the only gotchas lurking out there. Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 John, I seem to remember that AI pilots could walk, as well as 'land', on water!! Cheers - Dai. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 ...but have forgotten that my AH company is no AI, no loans. If I don't do it it doesn't get done. I did once land a Cessna 337 Skymaster on one of the JF carriers however, sans arresting gear. John Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,498 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Makes you wonder why they want all those musical instruments delivered to the deepest Atlantic? Comic answers below please! Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 For disposal...? John Link to post Share on other sites
SEATAC 400 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Cargo PIlot does the same thing. Sends you to a destination that is water and I'm not in a float plane. Only thing to do is land at an alternate and calim bad weather. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Quote Only thing to do is land at an alternate and calim bad weather. ...or read the fine print before accepting the job. Once the bird farms are installed, AH (and Cargo Pilot) just sees them as another airport, just like water runways. If you're too quick to accept the job, you're stuck. I think there are sixteen carriers in my FS installation, eight from JF Traffic 2005 and eight from Abacus Flight Deck IV, though they don't pop up for jobs very often. It was unusual enough that I thought folks might enjoy seeing it. John Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Obama sends out instruments and music sheets so the troops can dance to is tune even at sea Link to post Share on other sites
SEATAC 400 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Only thing to do is land at an alternate and calim bad weather. ...or read the fine print before accepting the job. Once the bird farms are installed, AH (and Cargo Pilot) just sees them as another airport, just like water runways. If you're too quick to accept the job, you're stuck. I think there are sixteen carriers in my FS installation, eight from JF Traffic 2005 and eight from Abacus Flight Deck IV, though they don't pop up for jobs very often. It was unusual enough that I thought folks might enjoy seeing it. John But in Cargo Pilot, you can click on the airport before accepting the job, but it doesn't say it's a water runway. Sometimes you need to go to the internet and look up the airport to find out. They could have done a better job in CP Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 It's been a long time since I've used Cargo Pilot and I'm working from memory here... always risky. I'm pretty sure there's a label above the bottom left pane of the cargo screen. If you click it you get the details of the departure airport, the destination airport and something else, job details I think. Anyway that label, which doesn't look anything like a button, really is a button and does a three-state toggle of information in that bottom left pane. If you're still using CP, give it a try and see if my memory is any good or not... John Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 O.K. - enough talk! Did you or didn't you?!? Cheers - Dai. :smile: Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I did not - I'm not foolish enough (or good enough) to try to land a PC-12 on a carrier. John Link to post Share on other sites
wisemanp 0 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Makes you wonder why they want all those musical instruments delivered to the deepest Atlantic? Comic answers below please! I suppose they could be on their way to the horn of Africa... (Sorry...) I like the way the landing is given to be at 119ft ASL! Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Quote I like the way the landing is given to be at 119ft ASL! That sounds a little high - It sticks in my mind something in the neighborhood of 90 feet is about right, but not sure. John Link to post Share on other sites
wisemanp 0 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I like the way the landing is given to be at 119ft ASL! That sounds a little high - It sticks in my mind something in the neighborhood of 90 feet is about right, but not sure. John I was just reading that off your print-screened shot of the AH data... (Edit) I thought that the runways were 194ft ASL. Then I realesed, that's how long they are! Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Austin 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 John, I did the same and as I got to the lake (in central Florida), I landed on the shoreline nearest the water strip. It accepted my cargo fine. I don't know about the ocean though. I think I just lucked out! Steve Austin Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Steve, I've heard similar stories from other AirHaulers who accidently accepted jobs to water runways with a land plane. Sometimes they can manage to land near the water and still get credit for the job. The big issue is the surface detection at touchdown. If the underlying landclass is something ugly (forest, urban, jungle, etc.) AH will assess some landing damage that will cut into the revenue for the job. Glad to hear you out-foxed the program on that one. John Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I've done that for a flight in Tasmania. The destination was Hobart Harbour, I managed to land in the car park (i think) and get credited for the job Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you... John Link to post Share on other sites
NotYet 0 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 I got a default Grand Caravan into the Ac carrier out in San Francisco Bay in standard FS9. Hit reverser just before touching down... landed something like 80 knots... wasn't too hard a landing unusually... should try it in AH... see what happens... Plummeted off the end, only just recovered when I took off again! Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted August 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Old screenshot - ready for take-off. Was too busy during the landing to get a photo but it wasn't hard with that AC. I ended up using maybe 3/4 of the available landing area. John Link to post Share on other sites
ddavid 149 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Come on, John - even I can land on a carrier - well stop, anyway! :dance:.... Cheers - Dai. :great: Link to post Share on other sites
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