Seasmoke 1 Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 That's great, many thanks. Replace my aging fleet is the sound business decision! Richard Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The Caribou is not exactly cutting edge.... John Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yes John, but don't tell the crew! (have you any other suggestions? Put them in a plain envelope marked, CEO, Air Work, Auckland please.) Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 PC-12, Piaggio P-180 Avanti (but not for short fields), Short 330/360 if range isn't too far, King Air; any DHC model after the Caribou, i.e. Buffalo, Twotter, Dash 7, Dash 8. The Dash 7 with four turbo-props was a surprisingly good STOL AC, reportedly able to leave 'em gagging and puking in the aisles in a maximum performance departure. Fairchild Metroliner, if you're glutton for punishement. John Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 A fine selection for me to look at tomorrow, John. We're only talking about 800 miles in NZ max. It's more to do with which ones of those above will give me the 6k (or more) cargo that I get with my DH-3's In Aus and China I have Airbus's while I save up for 747's. So I just need something interesting to replace the Daks, domestically. Keep the people happy as it were and stop their never-ending whinging about lost/delayed/damaged goods! Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 If I might prevail upon your patience one more time................. Do you know the AH Cargo Capacity for AI's on a DC-6B Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,291 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think UKJim had that in his fleet for awhile and he stated that he had carried around 35,000 but I'm not sure if that was the max. Hopefully he will see this and weigh in with a realistic answer. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Whose DC-6? Need to know the developer or better yet, have those two sections from aircraft.cfg to figure the cargo capacity. John Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 It was DC-6B - Legends of Flight by Just Flight. .But I haven't bought it yet Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I just looked on the JF AH site and it appears no one has posted the stats for it there yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 We'll give it a go then! Link to post Share on other sites
Seasmoke 1 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 The Cargo Capacity for AI jockeys is 13,528 in AH. There is a hidden overhead locker 5 frames back on the starboard side. Only Thai Customs know about this. Avoid flying to Thailand. Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyName 0 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Well, hoping to revive a discussion that started last year...and got SO CLOSE to the answer I need, then trailed off in another direction.  Midway through this thread, another guy asked about modifying the cargo capacity of the Basler BT-67 (turboprop variant of the DC-3).  AH gives the capacity as a little over 2k pounds, versus the DC-3's 6k+.  Obviously the specs for the turboprop variant make it much more versatile...and I essentially want this aircraft for my AI pilots.   Can someone tell me which lines of the config file to alter, and what values to change them to?  Here's the link to the full Basler specs: http://www.baslerturbo.com/performance.html  Also, just a little about my AH story...bought the Tahiti X terrain add-on and fell in love.  Several small islands within 25 -50 miles of each other.  4000' runways mean you can't get anything too big into any of the island airstrips...and then there's my "home," the tiny island of Motu Nao Nao, which in real life is an abandoned WWII dirt airstrip but which the Tahiti X add-on has renovated into a private house, paved airstrip, complete with a wrecked plane and parked DC-3, some barrels and other parts and supplies nearby...and what really makes it special: the towering palm trees looming over the strip.  It better have a small wingspan if you want to take off again.  Also, the parking spots are pretty limited.  On each island there are only a handful of parking spots for your fleet...but it's pretty cool to land after a mission and taxi up the terminal that is already crowded with other planes from your fleet.   Here's some screenies and descriptions: http://imgur.com/a/OVXwf   Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyName 0 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 One more thing: the Basler BT-67 is freeware.  Here's the config file:  // This is the flight dynamics file of the Basler Turbo-67 (BT-67) // Developers: Daniel Fuernkaess, Alexander M. Metzger, Hans-Joerg Naegele, Manfred Jahn // Release Date 1 July 2012  //Note on atc_ codes: //atc_id= // used as call sign, max 10 characters //atc_airline=Royal Thai Air Force etc //atc_flight_number=1003 // leave unspecified if call sign is to be used  [fltsim.0] title=Basler BT-67 Fantasma_1 sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_Fantasma panel= sound= texture=Fantasma_1 kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=FAC1681 atc_airline=Fuerza Aerea Colombiana atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="AC47T Fantasma 20 anos" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby= description="Fantasma FAC1681 of Fuerza Aerea Colombiana.\nPaint by M. Jahn. Project BT-67 developers: Daniel Fuernkaess, Manfred Jahn, Alexander M. Metzger, Hansjoerg Naegele."  [fltsim.1]  title=Basler BT-67 AWI - Polar 5 ski sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_ski panel= sound= texture=C-GAWI kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=C-GAWI atc_airline=Alfred Wegener Institute atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="AWI 'Polar 5' (ski)" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby= ui_thumbnailfile=thumbnail_5ski.jpg description="'Polar 5' of Alfred Wegener Institute. Paint by Daniel Fuernkaess (Cheese-Strike Repaints)."  [fltsim.2]  title=Basler BT-67 AWI - Polar 5 no ski sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=C-GAWI kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=C-GAWI atc_airline=Alfred Wegener Institute atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="AWI 'Polar 5' (no ski)" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby= ui_thumbnailfile=thumbnail_5noski.jpg description="'Polar 5' of Alfred Wegener Institute. Paint by Daniel Fuernkaess (Cheese-Strike Repaints)."  [fltsim.3] title=Basler BT-67 Thai AF 46158 sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=bt67_1 panel= sound= texture=RTAF_46158 kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=RTAF008 atc_airline=Royal Thai Air Force atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="Thai AF 158" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby= description="Thai Air Force 46158.\nPaint by M. Jahn. Project BT-67 developers: Daniel Fuernkaess, Manfred Jahn, Alexander M. Metzger, Hansjoerg Naegele."  [fltsim.4] title=Basler BT-67 N210MS sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=N210MS kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=N210MS atc_airline= atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="US REG N210MS FSX Custom" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby=  [fltsim.5] title=Basler BT-67 Emerald Harbor Air sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=Emerald kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=Emerald Harbor Air atc_airline= atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="Emerald Harbor Air" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby=  [fltsim.6] title=Basler BT-67 World Travel Airlines sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=World kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id=N210MS atc_airline=World Travel Airlines atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="World Travel Airlines" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby=  [fltsim.7] title=Basler BT-67 Capital sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=Capital kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id= atc_airline=Capital atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="Capital" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby=  [fltsim.8] title=Basler BT-67 Delta Airlines sim=Basler_BT67_v1.7 model=BT67_1 panel= sound= texture=Delta kb_checklists=BT-67_check kb_reference=BT-67_ref atc_id= atc_airline=Delta Airlines atc_flight_number= ui_manufacturer="Basler" ui_type="BT-67" ui_variation="Delta Airlines" ui_typerole="Twin Engine Prop" ui_createdby=   [General] atc_type=Basler atc_model=DC3 editable=0 Performance="Max speed: 225 kts; cruise speed: 205 kts; range: 1,860 nmi; service ceiling: 25,000 ft; empty weight: 15,750 lbs; max takeoff weight: 28,750 lbs; capacity: 36 passengers; powerplant: two Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67R turboprop engines, 1,220 hp each." Category = airplane     [Cameradefinition.0] Title=Overhead Panel Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-9E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078} Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.15 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=40 HeadingPanRate=60 PanAcceleratorTime=0 InitialXyz=  0.0, 0.0, -0.15 InitialPbh= -11.0, 0.0, 35 cyclehidden = YES  [Cameradefinition.1] Title=Standard Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-9E2B-A34C-D8D9D948F078} Description = Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = YES AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=40 HeadingPanRate=60 PanAcceleratorTime=0 HotKeySelect=1 InitialXyz=0.0, 0.0, 0.0 InitialPbh=14, 0, 0   [Cameradefinition.2] Title=Engine Controls Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-9E2C-A34C-D8D9D948F078} Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=40 HeadingPanRate=60 PanAcceleratorTime=0 InitialXyz=0.0, 0.0, -0.1 InitialPbh=35, 0, 22  [Cameradefinition.3] Title=Spot Guid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00C} Description = This is the description of the spot view. Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = FlatChase ShowAxis = No AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = Yes ShowLensFlare=TRUE Category = Outside ClipMode = Spot PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 HotKeySelect=2  [Cameradefinition.4] Title=Locked Spot Guid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00D} Description = This is the description of the spot view. Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = FlatChaseLocked ShowAxis = No AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = Yes ShowLensFlare=TRUE Category = Outside ClipMode = Spot PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0   [Cameradefinition.5] Title=FlyBy Guid = {6B79DD49-9B4A-439D-BF40-ACBF157B0BA0} Description = This is the description of the fly by view. Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = FlyBy ShowAxis = No AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = No ChaseDistance = 500 ChaseHeading = 15 ChaseAltitude = 10 ChaseTime = 20 ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Outside ClipMode = Tower  [Cameradefinition.6] Title=Top-Down Guid = {A2849229-938A-448f-8AC6-01EF2291C171} Description = This is the description of the map or top down view. Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Orthogonal PanPbhAdjust = Orthogonal Track = None ShowAxis = Yes AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom = 256 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = No XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = No ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Outside  [Cameradefinition.7] Title=Nearest Tower Guid = {60BC0819-BD04-4AF6-8954-8FC8AA3545FF} Description = This is the description of the tower view. Origin = Tower SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = Track ShowAxis = No AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = No ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Tower ClipMode = Tower NoSortTitle = True  [Cameradefinition.8] Title=Facilities Tower Guid = {AA8C80C0-9EE2-4284-A1C2-B20CD3F5F3D9} Description = This is the description of the tower view. Origin = Fixed InstancedBased = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = None PanPbhAdjust = None Track = Track ShowAxis = No AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = No ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Tower CycleHideRadius = 7 ClipMode = Tower  [Cameradefinition.9] Title=Facilities Runway Guid = {607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F} Description = This is the description of the runway view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit InstancedBased = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = None PanPbhAdjust = None TargetCategory = Fixed Track = TrackBank ShowAxis = Yes AllowZoom = Yes InitialZoom =1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = FALSE Transition = No ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Runway CycleHideRadius = 7 ClipMode = Tower CycleHidden=Yes  [Cameradefinition.10] Title=Landing Gear Guid = {96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB051} Description = View of the landing gear and left wing inboard flaps Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = FALSE PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = FALSE Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 ShowWeather = Yes InitialXyz = -3.2, -0.2, -10 InitialPbh = 0, 0, 15 XyzAdjust = TRUE Transition = YES Category=Aircraft MomentumEffect=TRUE ClipMode=Minimum  [Cameradefinition.11] Title=Tail Guid = {5c1df273-034b-4e7f-953a-9d5e26f1646c} Description = Looking forward from behind the aircraft Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = FALSE PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = FALSE Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 ShowWeather = Yes InitialXyz = 0, 7.5, -30.0 InitialPbh = 10, 0, 0 XyzAdjust = TRUE Transition = YES Category=Aircraft MomentumEffect=TRUE ClipMode=Minimum   [Cameradefinition.12] Title=Right Wing Guid = {C690EAFD-223A-42d0-99E0-681ADF93BB59} Description = View from the right wing tip looking at the cockpit Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = FALSE PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = FALSE Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 ShowWeather = Yes InitialXyz = 15.8, 0.7, 2.7 InitialPbh = 8, 0, 270 XyzAdjust = TRUE Transition = YES Category=Aircraft MomentumEffect = FALSE ClipMode=Minimum  [Cameradefinition.13] Title=Left Wing Guid = {f25dfa2e-fd2e-4b89-81e2-0575cbcb60de} Description = View from the left wing tip looking at the cockpit Origin = Center SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = FALSE PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = FALSE Track = None ShowAxis = FALSE AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 ShowWeather = Yes InitialXyz = -15.8, 0.7, 2.7 InitialPbh = 8, 0, 90 XyzAdjust = TRUE Transition = YES Category=Aircraft MomentumEffect = No ClipMode=Minimum   [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_1] Title=Fuel and Electrical Guid={C3DADEE3-7A84-49E7-B91A-72772D71304B} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = NO AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 1 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 Initialpbh = -13.817360877990723, 0, 61.658363342285156 InitialXYZ = 0, 0, 0   [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_2] Title=Engine Start Guid={D815EF73-72F0-44FA-9A17-BE1C3BA911EC} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = NO AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.40000000596046448 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 Initialpbh = -27.878192901611328, 0, 8.2683897018432617 InitialXYZ = 0, 0, -0.077957004308700562   [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_3] Title=GPS Guid={170A69BF-E6DB-490C-95D1-AF0239CA6593} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = YES AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 1.0 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 InitialXYZ = 0.54223471879959106, -0.29120388627052307, -1.6031786799430847e-005 Initialpbh = 8.8758878707885742, 0, -4.5026683807373047 cyclehidden = YES   [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_4] Title=Hydraulics Panel Guid={C5DA8B15-020D-4652-BE74-227568EA9E32} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = YES AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.6 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 Initialpbh = 58.21282958984375, 0, 98.480659484863281 InitialXYZ = 0.075648315250873566, 0.15568320453166962, 0  [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_5] Title=Garmins Display Guid={AAF9269A-AFBF-4D19-8637-489A37F40F63} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = NO AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 1.2 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 Initialpbh = 9.2781085968017578, 0, -4.9693775177001953 InitialXYZ = 0.583168625831604, -0.26080447435379028, 0   [CAMERADEFINITION.WHEELCAM_6] Title=Wing View Left Guid={97606780-00CE-4CFB-88B3-24511A692B88} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect = Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = YES AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.5 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=FALSE Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 Initialpbh = 12.56675910949707, 0, -104.37700653076172 InitialXYZ = -0.074996858835220337, 0, 0.25073105096817017    [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] max_gross_weight = 28750             // (pounds) empty_weight   = 15750             // (pounds)  reference_datum_position   =  19.25, 0, 0     // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline) empty_weight_CG_position   =  -20.90, 0, 0     // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datum  max_number_of_stations =13  station_load.0  = 170.0,  -2.1,  -2.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.1  = 170.0,  -2.1,  2.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.2  = 680.0,  -11.0,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.3  = 680.0,  -14.2,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.4  = 680.0,  -17.4,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.5  = 680.0,  -20.6,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.6  = 680.0,  -23.8,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.7  = 680.0,  -27.2,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.8  = 680.0,  -30.4,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.9  = 680.0,  -33.7,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.10 = 680.0,  -36.9,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.11 = 600.0,  -6.6,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position station_load.12 = 550.0,  -45.5,  0.0,  0.0  //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position  station_name.0  = "Pilot"      station_name.1  = "Co-Pilot"     station_name.2  = "Passenger Row 1" station_name.3  = "Passenger Row 2" station_name.4  = "Passenger Row 3" station_name.5  = "Passenger Row 4" station_name.6  = "Passenger Row 5" station_name.7  = "Passenger Row 6" station_name.8  = "Passenger Row 7" station_name.9  = "Passenger Row 8" station_name.10 = "Passenger Row 9" station_name.11 = "Forward Baggage" station_name.12 = "Rear Cargo"     empty_weight_pitch_MOI  =  92000 empty_weight_roll_MOI   = 155000 empty_weight_yaw_MOI   = 133000 empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.0  [Reference Speeds] flaps_up_stall_speed   = 67.5          //Knots True (KTAS) full_flaps_stall_speed  = 61.5          //Knots True (KTAS) cruise_speed       = 215          //Knots True (KTAS) max_indicated_speed   = 228          //Red line (KIAS)  [flight_tuning] cruise_lift_scalar   = 1.0 parasite_drag_scalar  = 1.0 induced_drag_scalar   = 1.3 //to adjust ROC elevator_effectiveness = 1.0 aileron_effectiveness  = 1.0 rudder_effectiveness  = 1.0 pitch_stability     = 1.0 roll_stability     = 1.0 yaw_stability      = 1.0 elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.0 aileron_trim_effectiveness  = 1.0 rudder_trim_effectiveness  = 1.0 p_factor_on_yaw      = 0.5 torque_on_roll      = 1.0 gyro_precession_on_yaw  = 1.0 gyro_precession_on_pitch = 1.0  [GeneralEngineData] engine_type = 5                 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop Engine.0 = -7.0, -9.1, -1.8           //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum Engine.1 = -7.0,  9.1, -1.8           //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum fuel_flow_scalar= 0.804 //  85% TQ = 1345 ftlb 1425 RPM 12500 ft 191 TAS  950 lb/hr Fuel flow scalar min_throttle_limit = -0.30             //Minimum percent throttle.  Generally negative for turbine reverser  [TurbineEngineData] fuel_flow_gain= 0.05 //0.02 //adjusted to have only slight overshot inlet_area= 0.5// 1.0 rated_N2_rpm= 39000//spec=39000 static_thrust= 160  //spec=160 afterburner_available= 0  [turboprop_engine] power_scalar= 1.0 maximum_torque= 4520  //1424 SHP @ 1700 RPM max_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.0 idle_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.0 max_rpm_friction_scalar=1.0 idle_rpm_friction_scalar=1.0  [propeller] thrust_scalar=0.95 propeller_type=0 propeller_diameter=9.25 //spec= 110.7 to 111.2 in propeller_blades=5 propeller_moi=35 beta_max=45 //spec=?? beta_min=13 // spec=13 min_gov_rpm=25350 //min 65% NP prop_tc=0.0005 //adjusted to have only slight overshot gear_reduction_ratio=22.94  // 39000 / 1700 RPM fixed_pitch_beta=0.0 low_speed_theory_limit=80 prop_sync_available=1 prop_deice_available=1 prop_feathering_available=1 prop_auto_feathering_available=1 min_rpm_for_feather=1000 //700 beta_feather=78.5  //spec=78.5 power_absorbed_cf=0.90 defeathering_accumulators_available=0 prop_reverse_available=2 minimum_on_ground_beta=13.0 minimum_reverse_beta=-16  [fuel] // standard fuel tank config: 772 gal LeftMain =  -19.00,  -5.8, -3.0, 202.0,  7.0 // Left main RightMain=  -19.00,  5.8, -3.0, 202.0,  7.0 // Right main LeftAux=   -22.00,  -5.8, -3.0, 200.0,  9.0 // Left inboard aux RightAux=  -22.00,  5.8, -3.0, 200.0,  9.0 // Right inboard aux  // additional 770 gal (long range tanks) = total fuel load: 1542 gal LeftTip=   -22.00,  -17.0, -2.7, 390.0,  5.0 // Left wing aux RightTip=  -22.00,  17.0, -2.7, 390.0,  5.0 // Right wing aux  fuel_type = 2                  //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetA number_of_tank_selectors = 2           electric_pump=1 manual_pump=1  [airplane_geometry] wing_area        = 987.0         //Square feet wing_span        = 95.0          //Feet wing_root_chord     = 12.85          //Feet wing_dihedral      = 5.0          //Degrees wing_incidence      = 2.0          //Degrees wing_twist        = -1.0          //Degrees oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.60          //Measure of lift effeciency of wing wing_winglets_flag    = 0           //Are winglets available? wing_sweep        = 14.5          //Degrees, wing leading edge wing_pos_apex_lon    = -13.00         //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft wing_pos_apex_vert    = -2.7          //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up  htail_area        = 95.8          //Square feet htail_span        = 28.25         //Feet htail_pos_lon      = -52.7         //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft htail_pos_vert      = -52.7         //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up htail_incidence     = -2.0 //Degrees htail_sweep       = 27.0          //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edge  vtail_area        = 37.9          //Square feet vtail_span        = 11.49         //Feet, tip to body vtail_sweep       = 50.4          //Degrees, vertical tail leading edge vtail_pos_lon      = -51.4         //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft vtail_pos_vert      = 6.7          //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up  elevator_area      = 83.4          //Square feet aileron_area       = 102.8         //Square feet rudder_area       = 46.7          //Square feet elevator_up_limit    = 20.0          //Degrees elevator_down_limit   = 20.0          //Degrees aileron_up_limit     = 20.0          //Degrees aileron_down_limit    = 14.0          //Degrees rudder_limit       = 15.0          //Degrees elevator_trim_limit   = 12.0          //Degrees spoiler_limit      = 0.0          //Degrees spoilerons_available   = 0           //Spoilerons Available? aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0          //Aileron to spoileron gain min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 0         //Degrees min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0           //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate auto_spoiler_available  = 0         positive_g_limit_flaps_up  =  2.5        //Design G load tolerance (positive, flaps up) positive_g_limit_flaps_down=  2.0        //Design G load tolerance (positive, flaps down) negative_g_limit_flaps_up  = -1.0        //Design G load tolerance (negative, flaps up) negative_g_limit_flaps_down= -1.0        //Design G load tolerance (negative, flaps down) load_safety_factor     =  1.5        //Design G load safety factor  [flaps.0]    //Trailing Edge Flaps system type       = 1               // 1 - tail, 2 - lead span-outboard   = 0.5              // 0.0 .. 1.0 extending-time  = 10              // seconds flaps-position.0 = 0               // degrees flaps-position.1 = 11              // degrees flaps-position.2 = 22              // degrees flaps-position.3 = 33              // degrees flaps-position.4 = 44              // degrees damaging-speed  = 140              // KIAS blowout-speed   = 175              // KIAS lift_scalar = 0.0 drag_scalar = 0.0 pitch_scalar= 0.0 system_type = 1                 //0=Electric, 1=Hydraulic, 2=Pneumatic, 3=Manual, 4=None  [flaps.1]    //Trailing Edge Flaps lift type       = 1               // 1 - tail, 2 - lead span-outboard   = 0.5              // 0.0 .. 1.0 extending-time  = 10              // seconds flaps-position.0 = 0               // degrees flaps-position.1 = 15              // degrees flaps-position.2 = 29              // degrees flaps-position.3 = 40              // degrees flaps-position.4 = 45              // degrees damaging-speed  = 140              // KIAS blowout-speed   = 175              // KIAS lift_scalar = 1.0 drag_scalar = 0.0 pitch_scalar= 0.0 system_type = 1                 //0=Electric, 1=Hydraulic, 2=Pneumatic, 3=Manual, 4=None  [flaps.2]    //Trailing Edge Flaps drag type       = 1               // 1 - tail, 2 - lead span-outboard   = 0.5              // 0.0 .. 1.0 extending-time  = 10              // seconds flaps-position.0 = 0               // degrees flaps-position.1 = 8               // degrees flaps-position.2 = 19              // degrees flaps-position.3 = 32              // degrees flaps-position.4 = 45              // degrees damaging-speed  = 140              // KIAS blowout-speed   = 175              // KIAS lift_scalar = 0.0 drag_scalar = 1.0 pitch_scalar= 0.0 system_type = 1                 //0=Electric, 1=Hydraulic, 2=Pneumatic, 3=Manual, 4=None  [flaps.3]    //Trailing Edge Flaps pitch type       = 1               // 1 - tail, 2 - lead span-outboard   = 0.5              // 0.0 .. 1.0 extending-time  = 10              // seconds flaps-position.0 = 0               // degrees flaps-position.1 = 9               // degrees flaps-position.2 = 20              // degrees flaps-position.3 = 32              // degrees flaps-position.4 = 45              // degrees damaging-speed  = 140              // KIAS blowout-speed   = 175              // KIAS lift_scalar = 0.0 drag_scalar = 0.0 pitch_scalar= 1.0 system_type = 1                 //0=Electric, 1=Hydraulic, 2=Pneumatic, 3=Manual, 4=None  [Views] eyepoint = -3.0, -1.4, 3.0  [contact_points] //0  Class             <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float> //1  Longitudinal Position     (feet) //2  Lateral Position       (feet) //3  Vertical Position       (feet) //4  Impact Damage Threshold    (Feet Per Minute) //5  Brake Map           (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right) //6  Wheel Radius         (feet) //7  Steer Angle          (degrees) //8  Static Compression      (feet)  (0 if rigid) //9  Max/Static Compression Ratio //10 Damping Ratio         (0=Undamped, 1=Critically damped) //11 Extension Time        (seconds) //12 Retraction Time        (seconds) //13 Sound Type //14 Airspeed limit for retraction   (KIAS) //15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)  //Usetop row for free turning tail wheel //point.0=1,  -56.00,  0.0,  -2.59, 1200.0, 0, 0.93, 180.0, 0.15, 2.0, 0.695, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 point.0=1,  -56.00,  0.0,  -2.59, 1200.0, 0, 0.93, 72.0, 0.15, 2.0, 0.695, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 point.1=1,  -18.55, -9.12, -9.78, 1600.0, 1, 1.89,  0.0, 0.54, 1.33, 0.686,  7.0,  10.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0 point.2=1,  -18.55,  9.12, -9.78, 1600.0, 2, 1.89,  0.0, 0.54, 1.33, 0.686,  6.0,  7.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0  point.3=2,  -27.00, -46.3,  -0.1,  800.0, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000,  0.0,  0.0, 5.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.4=2,  -27.00,  46.3,  -0.1,  800.0, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000,  0.0,  0.0, 6.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.5=2,  -61.00,  0.0,  14.0,  800.0, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000,  0.0,  0.0, 9.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.6=2,   0.40,  0.0,  -1.2,  800.0, 0, 0.00,  0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000,  0.0,  0.0, 4.0, 0.0, 0.0  static_pitch = 10.4 static_cg_height = 9.3 gear_system_type=1    //Hydraulic tailwheel_lock = 1  [exits] number_of_exits = 4 exit_rate.0 = 0.3                ;Percent per second exit_rate.1 = 0.3                ;Percent per second exit_rate.2 = 0.3                ;Percent per second exit_rate.3 = 100                ;Percent per second   [lights] //Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing light.0 = 3,  -25.60, -45.203,  0.804, fx_navred , light.1 = 3,  -25.60,  45.203,  0.804, fx_navgre , light.2 = 3,  -61.84,  0.00,  2.13, fx_navwhi , light.3 = 1,  -56.9,  0.00,  13.6, fx_bt67_beaconh , light.4 = 10,  -2.85,  -0.00,  2.5, fx_bt67_vclight ,  //y-2.85 z3.281 light.5 = 4,  -33.00,  0.00,  4.20, fx_vclight , light.6 = 1, -35.03, -1.77, -2.92, fx_bt67_beaconb , light.7 = 5 // changed HN: dummy landing light (to make attached lights draw current) light.8 = 2, -25.70, 0, 0.804, fx_bt67_strobes, //wing and fuselage strobes   [autopilot] autopilot_available= 1 flight_director_available= 1 default_vertical_speed= 500.0 autothrottle_available= 0 pitch_takeoff_ga=8.0 max_pitch=10.0 max_pitch_acceleration=1.0 max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.0 max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.5 max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=5000.0 max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=10000.0 max_bank=22.5 //25.0 adjusted to 2 min turn @130 KIAS max_bank_acceleration=1.8 max_bank_velocity=3.00 max_throttle_rate=0.00 nav_proportional_control=15 //9.00 nav_integrator_control=0.10 //0.25 nav_derivative_control=0.00 nav_integrator_boundary=2.50 nav_derivative_boundary=0.00 gs_proportional_control=15 //9.52 gs_integrator_control=0.10 //0.26 gs_derivative_control=0.00 gs_integrator_boundary=0.5//0.7 gs_derivative_boundary=0.00 yaw_damper_gain = 1.0 autothrottle_arming_required=0 autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0 autothrottle_max_rpm=100.0  [airspeed_indicators] //skalar, offset airspeed_indicator.0=1,0  [altimeters] altimeter.0=1 altimeter.1=1  [attitude_indicators] //Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro attitude_indicator.0 = 1 attitude_indicator.1 = 2  [direction_indicators] //1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another //2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4 direction_indicator.0=1,0 direction_indicator.1=2,0  [pitot_static] //Increasing this value will cause a more instantaneous reaction in the VSI vertical_speed_time_constant = 1 pitot_heat = 1.0   //Scalar on heat effectiveness, 0 = not available  [turn_indicators] //Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2=Vacuum Gyro turn_indicator.0=2,0  [Radios] // Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope Audio.1    = 1 Com.1     = 1, 1 Com.2     = 1, 1 Nav.1     = 1, 1, 1 Nav.2     = 1, 1, 0 Adf.1     = 1 Adf.2     = 1 Transponder.1 = 0 Marker.1    = 1  [gear_warning_system] gear_warning_available = 1   //Normal pct_throttle_limit =  0.1   //Percent throttle that activates warning flap_limit_idle   = 22.5   //Flap angle that activates warning at idle flap_limit_power  = 34.5   //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle  [stall_warning] type=1 stick_shaker=0  [electrical] // changed AMM // BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage // BusTypes: 0=MainBus, 1=AvionicsBus, 2=BatteryBus, 3=HotBatteryBus, 4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4) max_battery_voltage = 24 generator_alternator_voltage = 28 max_generator_alternator_amps = 300 //100 flap_motor= 0,  0,  0 // hydraulic gear_motor= 0,  0,  0 // hydraulic autopilot= 1,  5, 22 avionics_bus= 0, 20, 20 avionics= 1,  5, 22 pitot_heat= 0,  1, 20 additional_system= 0, 10, 20    // reduced for all other stuff marker_beacon= 1,  2, 20 gear_warning= 2,  1, 20 fuel_pump= 0,  5, 20 starter1= 0, 20, 20 starter2= 0, 20, 20 starter3= 0,  0,  0 starter4= 0,  0,  0 light_nav= 0,  2, 20 light_beacon= 0,  2, 20 light_landing= 0,  5, 20 light_taxi= 0,  0,  0    // not existant light_strobe= 0,  0,  0 light_panel= 0,  5, 20 light_cabin= 0,  5, 20 prop_sync= 0,  5, 20 auto_feather= 0,  5, 20 auto_brakes 0,  0,  0    // not existant standby_vacuum= 0,  0,  0    // not existant hydraulic_pump= 3,  0,  0 // simulates hydraulic hand pump fuel_transfer_pump= 0, 10, 20 propeller_deice= 0, 10, 20    // increased light_recognition= 2,  1,  0 light_wing= 2,  2,  0 light_logo= 0,  0,  0    // not existant directional_gyro= 1,  1, 20 directional_gyro_slaving= 0,  0,  0   // not existant  [Auxiliary Power Unit] available = 1  [brakes] parking_brake = 1            //Parking brake available toe_brakes_scale = 0.70         //Brake scalar differential_braking_scale = 1.0    //Delta on the amount of brake when the rudder pedals deflected auto_brakes = 0  [deice_system] //0 = None, 1 = Heated Leading Edge, 2 = Bleed Air Boots, 3 = Eng Pump Boots structural_deice_type=2  [hydraulic_system] normal_pressure = 752 //732       //PSI electric_pumps  = 1 engine_map    = 1,1,0,0        //pumps on Eng1,2  [pneumatic_system] max_pressure=18.000000 bleed_air_scalar=1.0  [vacuum_system] //Type: 0=None, 1=Engine pump (default), 2=Pneumatic, 3=Venturi max_pressure=5.0   //PSI vacuum_type=1   engine_map=1,1 electric_backup_pressure=4.9  [effects] wake=fx_wake water=fx_spray dirt=fx_tchdrt concrete=fx_sparks touchdown=fx_tchdwn_s, 1 startup=fx_bt67_engstrt // Ski Maule effects SnowTrack = fx_snowtrack //WheelSnowSpray = fx_WheelSnowSpray //WheelWetSpray  = fx_WheelWetSpray   [smokesystem]  [forcefeedback] ground_bumps_magnitude1=2600       ; 0 - 10000 ground_bumps_angle1=8900         ; 0 - 35999 degrees ground_bumps_intercept1=5.0 ground_bumps_slope1=0.6 ground_bumps_magnitude2=1200       ; 0 - 10000 ground_bumps_angle2=9100         ; 0 - 35999 degrees ground_bumps_intercept2=0.085 ground_bumps_slope2=0.65 crash_magnitude1=10000          ; 0 - 10000 crash_direction1=01000          ; 0 - 35999 degrees crash_magnitude2=10000          ; 0 - 10000 crash_direction2=9000          ; 0 - 35999 degrees crash_period2=75000           ; in microseconds crash_duration2=3500000         ; in microseconds  [keyboard_response] elevator=150.000000,250.000000 aileron=150.000000,250.000000 rudder=150.000000,250.000000   Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,291 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hi DirtyName, (might help if you post your first name so we can talk like gentleman  )  Welcome to the site  and I must say that it looks like you found your own little slice of heaven on earth with your home base. Nice looking scenery.    I am glad you brought this back up again. I wouldn't mind knowing the changes Kasper referred too in his post myself. Reading through the posts it seems that the extra fuel tanks are the problem although this is out of my bailiwick. I am sure the experts will pop up soon enough but in the mean time you could try to hash out the long range fuel tank lines in the [fuel] section. Make a backup copy of the aircraft.cfg file and then open up the original. In the fuel section put hash marks in front of these lines so it looks like this:  // additional 770 gal (long range tanks) = total fuel load: 1542 gal//LeftTip=   -22.00, -17.0, -2.7, 390.0, 5.0 // Left wing aux//RightTip=  -22.00,  17.0, -2.7, 390.0, 5.0 // Right wing aux  Save and see if that makes a difference. If that doesn't help, well, I am sorry for taking up your time and you will need to reverse the changes or delete the original file and rename your backup copy along with checking back in to see what the real experts have to say.  Please let us know how you make out with this. Link to post Share on other sites
Kasper 14 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Sorry guys, been a little busy so I'm late to the conversation. Brett gave the correct solution - the reason it was not posted earlier is that Richard indicated that he did not need it anymore. So comment out the long range tanks and you get 7610 lb payload with 804 gallons of fuel. That should do nicely for the ai. Â Link to post Share on other sites
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