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Hi Chris I've only just gotten around to installing 2.3, but yes they're working just fine. Curiously the ones I made using your hint on how to get around the bglc lights issue in p3d also work in P3D v2.2. Personally I do think the BGLC type lights we provide for the FSX version of the scenery are nicer though. Hi Ray With that, and guys not playing by the rules and simply taking the google earth images for free..it's certainly a big handicap for us. My heart is in the UK, and it's always been my ambition to make the UK the best scenery in the world. But we're up against it fr

very good. So why not take your illgotten wealth and buy some (pretty good) ES scenery with it

Well, I really don't want to alter the topic of the thread with legalities that have nothing to do with ES or the scenery being discussed, I promise you there is no free data source for aerial imagery in the UK. That's a fact and I'll leave it at that. At least the flag is appropriate

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I can guarantee that the data used in that is being used illegally. It's their look out whoever it is, and I won't be telling on them, but if the suppliers find out they'll jump on them without mercy.

Hey Kev Impressive! That's by no means everything we do of course, and it's all those manual interventions a list like that can't express that make all the difference to quality and take most of the time and effort. We also have a good few processing steps beyond those too...but you clearly have dabbled in the subject quite a bit and have a very good grasp of what's involved. BTW , there are 16, 869 photo tiles & 366,732 Autogen tiles. edit: Something else I just thought to add as some extra food for thought, is..try to forget for a minute that this is a fully accurate

Hi Brit Yes... I think that could be a good idea, Thanks.... but will take a bit of putting together. I'll do that though and likely add it as an article on the ES website in the next day or so. I'll let you know when it's posted.

Hi Loic You're OK, I left my buns at the door ..There will be a number of reasons and possibilities for why the scenery you refer to is free. Firstly unless you have a very wealthy and generous benefactor giving his time and money, then the source data must be freely available in the first instance. Or it has been used and distributed illegally is another possibility as Aerial imagery always belongs to somebody. The US does have free data...but that is not the case in the UK. Source data is expensive here, and is so expensive that no individual could afford to buy it. So we ( ES) must a

That'd mean you were flying at 1,530 kmh in order to cross this scenery in that time. If you're going that fast Corsair you don't need scenery...you need a nappy!

Very nice pics John, Thank you for posting them So you can see a direct comparison of the 60cm GenX version V's the 60cm PhotoGenESis, I just took these pics of where the two meet for you Brit.

If I may Joe, Vikki and I would like to offer some perspective on pricing, so that our users can appreciate a little more clearly how it is that we come to the figures, and why it is they couldn't possibly be less than we ask. We want to be as open and transparent as possible and have people understand. Whilst we also completed the first area of Autogenesis, and much of the time was spent in R&D perfecting the techniques that we will use going forwards, we've spent a full 9 months on the development of the first area. Future areas will not take as long, and we're banking on there being eno

Hi Kev Likewise my reply isn't targeted at you per se, but rather is a general response to anyone who might be led into believing that the products are over priced for what they are. They certainly aren't, and what's more...we can demonstrate it. There are cheap cars, and there are more expensive better cars. The principle is exactly the same. You can also save a few quid by riding around in a trabant. But you're not going to get mercedes knocking down their prices in order to compete with them are you?

OK, I should perhaps have been absolutely entirely accurate with saying "Twice". There're in fact precisely 2.25 x more ES areas, each costing approximately 20% less than a volume of GenX So...taking vol 6 as the example as it's first out the door: The same area covered in ES works out a little under 39% more expensive than GenX size for size. But Size most certainly isn't everything in this case, there's one hellava lot more to it, which I'll reiterate is in my own opinion not to be ignored.. Now forgive me, as I'm going to get a little blunt about it. If you don't believe that the extr

Where on Earth do you get that from Brit? have you also included the purchase of 18x 500GB usb3.0 hardrives in your calculations? Let's look at the ES pricing in more detail taking the very most expensive option as the example. There are cheaper alternative options on offer too let's not forget. 30cm photoGenesis = £29.99 rrp Autogenesis included is plus £14.99 rrp ES Total per area = £44.98 rrp *Please don't forget. Drive prices are either 100% refundable, or if you choose to, you will have purchased yourself a brand new hard drive. We're making nothing at ES from drive

Hi Chris You certainly have our deepest sympathy with the pirating issue. If people were ever wondering why we've persevered with our ESI installer despite some negative criticism of it, they need look no further than your post here!! We wish you the best of luck with your new projects.

Hi Chris If the scenery has been installed directly from the server previously, go to the "My Library" link and you'd have to select one of the repair or uninstall buttons to bring up the selected scenery window. You should then see an Orange "Make ESI-Pack" Button. If you click that the scenery will be downloaded to an ESI-Pack. ( we expected people to either download from the servers, or make an ESI-Pack on installing for the first time ( As recommended) , so downloading will occur again now to assemble the ESI-Packs) These are the relevant Helpdesk articles to do with ESI-Packs

​It was so you'd have one installer on your system, and not 25+ separate install programs. So you don't have the trouble you first encountered with the software being out of date. Because some people are resistant to change and don't like reading instructions. You didn't have a back-up on your system, you had the scenery/texture folders yes, but that isn't a backup. That's why I explained how to re-activate the folders. If you want a back-up to save re-downloading ( or reactivating in FSX if the files were still there ) You would have needed to choose the downlo

Hi Ben There are no issues with the ES products working with the FTX stuff.

If you already have Guernsey ( ie: the Earth Simulations folder) left on your system from before. You can re-activate the folders. See this helpdesk article for general advice about which folders to activate and in what order they should be layered. You'd then need to install the ES compatible Autogen files to your FSX/Autogen folder. You can get those here Just passing this morning Brit, so saw your post, but it's a good idea to ask us via the ES helpdesk if you have ES related questions. Is your ESI up to date. ( version 2.4) available here ( to check the version see here )

Hi Dean Just for the sake of providing accurate information ( not wanting to spar with you ) The ES project is 12.5cm data resampled to 30cm...then colour enhanced....and you're absolutely right...It'll be HUGE!

Hi I had done a few updates to the site while it was quiet an hour or two ago, but hadn't noticed any problems as a result those updates until reading this.. Everyone who's been given a link to the new site has also been made aware that it's not 100% ready to replace our old system yet. The link is working here fine now anyway, I don't actually know why it didn't earlier for you, but it seems to have fixed itself since.

Hi Chris When you downloaded I had a setting wrong and was routing the download through the ES website server first. It now comes straight from the s3 download servers at a much faster rate. I have a recently got 100mb fibre connection, and have seen as high as 18mb sec speeds downloading Isle of Man ...oh yes!

Hi The new website combines your previous ES store and forum accounts together. On first visit you will need to change your password by visiting one of the " forgotten password" links. This will send you the necessary e-mail to activate your account and associate all your previous orders and forum posts with it. On logging in to your account you will see a "My ES" link on the top menu appear. Use this to change your profile so that your forum name and picture are to your preference. I'm sorry it has been necessary to ask you to reset your passwords, but this is due to the reason all pass

Hi Joe Great to see Treescapes being used in this way, and thank you for the plug on Mutley's.

hehe .. thank you all! :biggrin: