gavoon1 19 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Now a few of you will know about the issue I had will orbx night lights, I have become a little obsesive about night lighting as it really adds to that realism and immersion! I decided ok I should purchase a night light addon to add lights into FSX SE. I did my research came across TABURET and decided to purchase 2 different ones: Germany and Denmark and the British isles ( I was really exited to try them out ). The Germany scenery was good no issues. However British Isles was an other story... i spawned in London ( a fame intensive city! ) I have a pretty good PC: I5-4690 @ 3.90HZ 8GBram GTX 960 1TB and I fly alot out of London! After installing Taburet British ilse I was getting 1 frame in the london ( I do have a addon scenery for London too), Gatwich 14-18 frames... Something isnt right... Its a great product dont get me wrong! I cant fly out of london though because of performance issues.. Any suggestions? As I payed $13 and its not fly-able.( effects my frames even during day ) bonus point: I know its Taburet addon effecting my frames cause I uninstalled it, and it went back to 30 ish Frames on the runway at heathrow with aerosoft scenery. And I did contact Taburet by email, however would love some other ideas from other users maybe. Gavin Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 As you recognise and are already aware, London is one of the many cities and surrounding areas which is a well known FPS hog. Adding additional airport scenery to this is certainly not going to help. Clearly, adding Taburet on top of this again is having a compounding affect on frame rates. Try uninstalling the London add-on scenery and installing Taburet and compare the FPS. This will most likely only confirm that one or the other, or a combination of the two is just far too frame rate intensive. Optimising FSX cfg files is really your only option, but unlikely to solve a problem with such an impact on frame rates. It sounds like the Taburet developers have not optimised their add-on for use with other scenery add-ons, and I doubt you will get any joy in the response to your email. This could just end up being a case of $13 wasted - it's happened to most at some time. Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Thanks you, but works well with others with a pc as good as mine? Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 A little more research via a very quick and simple Google search returns this http://www.avsim.com/topic/453248-night-lighting-orbx-vs-aerosoft-vs-taburet/ among many others. I only read the first page of comments, but there are many references to major FPS hits (down to 1 FPS) in other geographical areas with Taburet products. I have now come to the conclusion that Taburet is a highly suspect product and a waste of money. I think the reality here is, you are not going to get any joy with Taburet in the London area. However, if you are aware that it "... works well with others with a pc as good as mine...", maybe you should ask them what is causing your problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Thanks for yuor responses! I really appreciate the support I receive cause I have had bad experiences with orbx support in regards to my light issue which in turns has lead me to this TABURET issue. But I will put out there it effects London but manchester is fine and my germany land class is fine just London those big cities FRAME HOG! One more question why does TABURET effect my simming even at day time??? No lights out then... Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, gavoon1 said: One more question why does TABURET effect my simming even at day time??? No lights out then... Because the scenery is still active in your scenery cfg, even though you don't see it until it is dark enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 12 hours ago, gavoon1 said: One more question why does TABURET effect my simming even at day time??? No lights out then... Actaully it's a problem Orbx discovered years ago. It seems fsx still renders the lights without them being lit. It was very noticeable flying in ultimate terrain X regions from Flight 1. Orbx discovered a sort of solution by using a new script called 'Ftx day' and 'ftx night'. Essentially, clicking ftx day disabled the hidden lighting in areas. Ftx night reset the lighting to 'on' both scripts are available as part of ftx central. As for Taburet, well I don't like their products. They make some god awful scenery for x plane that to be honest, you can make yourself. Their lighting products also have massive issues here and there. Night environment however is excellent and will change the way your sim looks. Jess B 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 so aerosoft night lights has good performance, for sure is that a promise with my pc specs? Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, gavoon1 said: so aerosoft night lights has good performance, for sure is that a promise with my pc specs? Always difficult to say. However, Aerosoft offer a free demo of night environment, centred around Berlin. You can always download that and give it a try. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the demo. http://en.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=13040&s_design=DEFAULT&shopfilter_category=Flight%20Simulation&s_language=english Run a test flight before you install though, say from Berlin Tegel or Templehof, both during the day and night. Berlin is a very heavy area anyway, even in default. Make a note of the performance, then try the same thing with the NE demo installed. Hopefully you'll be ok. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thank you Jess Gavin, if you choose to go with Aerosoft's Night Environment you will find our support forums is dedicated to Night Flights; with all the support and information you need, you will have direct channel to the developer (Me ) to help with any issue you may come across, http://forums.nightenvironment.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 and NE stands for what again? I really am happy to receive this support as I have orbx fix global base I am gonna try a few more things cause their night lighting (when it works ) is a lot LESS expensive then investing in all those light packs... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, gavoon1 said: and NE stands for what again? I really am happy to receive this support as I have orbx fix global base I am gonna try a few more things cause their night lighting (when it works ) is a lot LESS expensive then investing in all those light packs... Look very closely at the post above yours and look for any combination of words starting with N and E. Then, look at the URL link provided, and finally, in case you missed all of those, look at the signature block. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 North East 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm not sure you are taking this seriously, March. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 You're right, sorry. The devil made me do it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I found these as well. It really is rather confusing now. NE Nebraska (US postal abbreviation) NE Northeast(ern) NE Any NE New England NE New Edition NE Netherlands NE National Education NE Niue NE No Evidence (school grading system) Ne Neon NE Niger (ISO country code, top level domain) NE Neuchâtel (canton postcode, Switzerland) NE Net Energy (animal science) NE Newcastle Upon Tyne (postcode, United Kingdom) NE Norepinephrine NE National Enquirer NE No Escape (Gaming clan) NE Night Elf (Warcraft III) NE Night Elf (gaming) NE Nueva Ecija (Philippines) NE Nash Equilibrium (game theory) NE Nicomachean Ethics (Aristotle) NE Nuclear Envelope (cell anatomy) NE Node Element NE Nitro Express NE Nutrition Educator NE Naval Engineer NE Neutral Evil (gaming) NE Nocturnal Emission NE Navy Enlisted NE Necrotic Enteritis (enterotoxemic disease of poultry) NE Network Essentials NE Non-Established NE Naked Empire (Terry Goodkind book) NE Operation Noble Eagle NE Not Estimable nE Nach Elfmeterschießen (German soccer) NE Navy Enterprise NE Navio Escola (School Ship, Portuguese Navy) NE Navy Evaluation NE New Technical Environment NE Occupation Special Delivery (Scott Catalogue prefix; philately) NE Natural England (UK) NE Neuss (German city) NE Nitzer Ebb (band) NE Noise Equivalent NE Nuclear Energy NE New Entrant NE Network Element NE Neuenburg (Neuchâtel; Swiss Canton) NE Not Examined NE Neutrophil Elastase NE Not Evaluated (IUCN Red List of Threatened Species category) NE not enrolled NE Not Equal NE Nuclear Engineer NE Neuquen (Argentina province, airline code) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jess-b 420 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 In deference to my estimed colleague above, In this instance, NE stands for Night Environment, Taburet's main opposition and in my opinion, superior. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thanks @Jess-b, We missed that one, along with November Echo. Correcting now............. Link to post Share on other sites
gavoon1 19 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 cheers, me being a bright one... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 934 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Does that mean someone switched the lights on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 From my career: Non-Electrical Non-Essential 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPC8MyBrain 273 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Thank's guys 17 hours ago, gavoon1 said: and NE stands for what again?. did you find the answer to your question Gavin? in case the answer still eludes you... NE stands for -> Night Environment Link to post Share on other sites
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