allardjd 1,853 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Go for it... John Link to post Share on other sites
Paulninja 2 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sorry just realized the rules of the game. Some can take my place while I try and work out how to add a picture lol Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,316 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Paul, for info on posting pic's check out the following thread, you can try the first link given in post #2 (which is pinned in our site) or if you use Photobucket just read further on to my post. http://forum.mutleyshangar.com/index.php/topic/11474-how-to-upload-pictures/?hl=%2Badding+%2Bscreenshots#entry96717 Link to post Share on other sites
Paulninja 2 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Cheers Brett, Here goes then Just a tease to start as the whole aircraft would be to easy. the tip tank with the dorsal fin is your clue . Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 The aircraft that carries the name today is a completely different animal, but this beast is one of few USAF aircraft that for a while carried RAF roundals! Link to post Share on other sites
Paulninja 2 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 You Know your tip tanks Alan Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I believe it was the first US jet bomber Link to post Share on other sites
Paulninja 2 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Correct John,Beginning to thing I should of posted a picture of the main gear tyre tread pattern instead of the tip tank All that remains now is for Alan or John to name the aircraft.Who will be first to do the honours ? Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Moving house boat to house - very busy dude, right now. Take it away Alan Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Who will Be the first to out this one then. Someone forty five'd by booze perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,316 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 It seems like people that know it prefer not to give the answer. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Well if no-one else wants it...... B-45 Tornado. Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Atta boy, Alan Link to post Share on other sites
Paulninja 2 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well done Alan look forward to the next one And here she is B-45 Tornado in all her glory. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Thanks guys, Ok get your teethinto this strange little bird. Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 It looks like the love child of an Avro Anson and a Moony Bravo! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I'd never heard of it until this photo popped up on another thread elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 It looks like the love child of an Avro Anson and a Moony Bravo! The rudder screams Piper Cub but that's about the only thing that looks familiar. Early post-war from the style, I'd say, and if so, in pretty good shape for being that old. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Looks like it could be a homebuilt. No registration shown, so hard to tell. I'm looking at the "end plate" wingtips - a little like the spinning knives on the chariot hubs in the movie "Ben Hur". Screw pattern looks typical Clarke Y, another clue to homebuilt status. Stumped this chump! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,316 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Some heavy duty wing struts too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Quote Some heavy duty wing struts too! Wing struts above the wing have to be big - they're in compression rather than tension and have to be beefy enough to not buckle. Wings struts below the wing are in tension and the load-bearing element can usually just be a rod or cable, sometimes covered with a fairing, ala Cessna. I'm pretty sure those Cessna singles just have a rod inside that oval strut tube. For some reason that thing makes me think Czech or maybe French, but couldn't tease it out of either country's aircraft lists for the 30s through 50s. I must be barking up the wrong tree. I don't think it's home-built. I have the impression of a low-production commercial product, maybe even a prototype. There is a Czech twin of that era by Aero that looks a lot like it but can't find any reference to a single-engined little brother. Good one, Al, no matter how you came by it. John EDIT: Looking more closely, I'm getting more sniffs of Piper. Those lightning flashes on the end plates and fuselage sure do look like a Cub's, and the main gear kind of have that look too, and as I noted earlier, that rudder shape could have come right off a J-3. Could this be some wild-hair of Piper's that didn't pan out, maybe post-Cub, pre-Tri-Pacer? Will have to look some more but it's too late tonight. Leaving this clue for others to run down if they care to. JDA 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I can tell you that it was mass produced and 218 of them were built. the design was continually improved and evolved, Those overwing struts give a big clue as to part of its intended use as this is a common feature on these aircraft. Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I was thinking 'Zenaire' kit aircraft - can't find it. Zenaire was a spin off from Czech Sport (I think). This is why I've been working on Homebuilt or Kit aircraft. Still can't find it. Quote: EDIT: Looking more closely, I'm getting more sniffs of Piper. Those lightning flashes on the end plates and fuselage sure do look like a Cub's, and the main gear kind of have that look too, and as I noted earlier, that rudder shape could have come right off a J-3. Could this be some wild-hair of Piper's that didn't pan out, maybe post-Cub, pre-Tri-Pacer? Will have to look some more but it's too late tonight. Leaving this clue for others to run down if they care to. JDA End Quote I agree, that lightning flash is pretty distinctive. However, the comment was made by some guy who was up all night doing airport diagram edits (my phone was beeping and bleeping with incoming notifications up until I went to bed at 2230 on the west coast - a full three hours behind Florida) Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 It is definately NOT anything to do with Piper. Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,316 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Is it a CallAir A-2 that's been modified? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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