allardjd 1,853 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Where's Andrew on this one? If he's got it and is just laying in the weeds he normally gives some indication of that. Alan, have you stumped the Aussie Master too? John Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 It was indeed designed for ground attack and was heavily armoured, It was deemed a crew of 3 would be able to operate this thing! (possibly with one of them being an octopus!) This is the complete beast, Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Godden 943 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I yield, totally. I have been searching all my sources to absolutely no avail on this one. Cheers Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 It's a Boeing GA-2, apparently also sometimes known as the Model 10, designed and build by Boeing for the US Army Air Service in 1921. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In an article titled, "Organization and Activities of Engineering Division of the Army Air Service", dated February 1922, I find this... Type VI - This type is designed primarily for ground attack work and is heavily armored. There were no planes of this type in use during the war. The LePere Ground Attack plane was designed for this class of work. Since the War, the Engineering Division has designed a ground attack airplane and accepted it for service. The GA-1 (formerly known as the GAX) is an externally braced triplane mounting two Liberty 12 engines in armored nacelles. A number of these planes were built by the Boeing Airplane Company and are now in service in the Southern Department. A new model, designed by the Boeing Airplane Company, is now under experimental construction at the designer's plant. The plane will be an externally braced biplane built around a 700 H.P. Model "W" engine. Both of these models mount consderably heavier armament that any other types. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ...and this in "The Boeing Logbook: 1920 - 1926", under 1921... December: The Boeing Airplane Co. armored Army ground-attack biplane (GA-2) makes its first flight from McCook Field in Dayton, Ohio (later known as Wright-Patterson Air Force Base), and two planes are ordered. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ...and in the David J. Gauthier Memorial Collection, photo 7992, titled Boeing 10 GA-2 (64235) US Army Air Service. It's captioned: 06/30/2008. Confusingly designated Model 10 as well, this aircraft was also designed by I.M. Laddon of the US Army Engineering Division at McCook Field, Ohio, USA, in 1921. Designed for the same purpose but smaller of size as the GAX/GA-1, this two-place biplane was powered by a 750 hp Engineering Division W-1A-1812 twelve-cylinder water-cooled V-engine. Two aircraft were ordered, s/n 64235 and 64236, and both had their maiden flight at McCook Field in 1921. The photo is a dead ringer. http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/GauthierDavidJ/7992.htm Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thats the one John. Over to you, Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wow - what a mess that was. Great job, Alan. Will have to post one tonight - lots of irons in the fire today. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,315 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Nice work John, I spent a couple of hours on that one and didn't find squat. Nice find Alan, you had us looking under hangar floors for that one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Well done, both Alan and John. Any and all searches for Boeing "GA" aircraft kept sending me to the same GA-1 (Model 10) Triplane. Even a search for GA-2 gets the same Wiki page. Yikes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Okay, buoys and gulls, give this one a try. I think only one was ordered... Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 You would never guess that the company that built this thing was famous for something much more gracefull! It certainly doesn't live up to its name! Link to post Share on other sites
J G 927 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 English Electric Kingston flying boat Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 No, not English Electric, John. John Link to post Share on other sites
hifly 925 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Harland & Wolff Flying Barge Mk1? Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 No, not Harland and Wolff. They all look pretty much alike, don't they. John Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,497 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hmmm. Supermarine 'Swan' by chance? Not one of RJ Mitchell's best works! (Made right here in Southampton!) Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, sir, it is indeed the Swan. Who'd have thought that barge was a predecessor to the Supermarine air racers and the mighty Spit? John Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,497 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I agree John, I think it was designed to take 10 passengers, I wouldn't fancy it! Here is a new one.. I hope it hasn't been posted before, I don't get here that often. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Aww, I love these things, Something different in the companys brochure, A trainer but not Made For Idiots! Got some lovely examples in the sim! Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,497 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I would love to see your examples Al, you don't have to mention the name unless you want to take up the reins! Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 MFI-17 Mushshak (an improved Saab Safari) Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I did a whole post about them some time ago. Link to post Share on other sites
mutley 4,497 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Well done Chuck over to you and thanks Alan for the refresh! Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 OK - next one. One of three wings, but not all at the same time Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,315 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Sopwith Triplane? Link to post Share on other sites
hurricanemk1c 195 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Nope. As I said, one of three wings it carried, but not all at the same time. Two top wings, one fixed wing Link to post Share on other sites
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