allardjd 1,853 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 the three pic's look like totally different aircraft. I agree, Brett. Can't seem to make heads or tails of this one. John Link to post Share on other sites
GHAO 0 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Fighter plane, high wing, one pilot. Nose looks like the F4 Phantom. Can't see them, so assuming there's two engines, one on each wing? EDIT: no, second picture shows the engine, long and thin, tucked right against the body, forming part of the wing. Looks like a Valiant (apart from cockpit), but according to Wiki that saw service. Also looks like a Tupolev Tu-16, but that also saw service. How close are we getting now? Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Nowhere near it yet guys, I thought this would be easy. I'll give you until Sunday, then if no-ones got it I will reveal it's identity. A few more hints; It has a very famous manufacturer, It was in a fly-off with a very famous winner. The Russians copied bits of it for a successful aircraft in service with them. If you can identify THAT aircraft it will give you a big clue as to what this one was intended for. all the pics so far are bits from the same large photo. Like it's competitor, and the Russkie, it's a single seater! One of my previous replies gave you a good idea as to where to look! Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 0 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I know what it is. The Canopy gave it away and your clue about the competition. It's The Northrop YA-9. It partook in the A-X program with the YA-10. USAF picked the YA-10 that later became the A-10 Thunderbolt II. I think the USAF picked the better looking aircraft too because that YA-9 is just uglyer. Link to post Share on other sites
rob16584 42 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Damn you beat me to it Sean! A trawl back through Alan's replies and the 'thuderbolt' comment looked a bit out of the ordinary!. Link to post Share on other sites
GHAO 0 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Any time anyone feels like giving an easy one for us - go ahead! Well done Sean, looks like I was miles off Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Finally !! LOL, Yes it is indeed the Northrop YA-9 It was of course copied for the Sukhoi SU25 Frogfoot. The reason this aircraft wasn't chosen was due to the vulnerability of it's engines in the Ground Attack role. The A10 could lose one of its engines and a complete fin and tailplane yet still fly! this one couldn't. game over! Over to you Sean. Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 This is the SU-25 for comparison! Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Way to go Sean. I was way off myself Rob. The canopy looked like a jet fighter but the tail looked like something off a larger lumbering type plane and the wing section was also giving me trouble. Good one Alan Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I found an aircraft that should prove challenging but at the same time not too hard Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Martin Mariner with Jato For the detail oriented: designation PBM-5 Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 http://www.uscg.mil/history/img/air/AC_PBMjato1.jpg certainly is! Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Correct March. I knew I shouldn't put those JATO's in. Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'm in a big hurry. SWMBO is on my case as we're leaving for the airport. However, I was confident that I had the right A/C so I prepared my next offering before hand. Hopefully, not too difficult Cheers, March Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 In a way it looks like a Beech 18 and in a way it doesn't. Lets make this an official guess, so we can get that one off the table. John Link to post Share on other sites
brett 2,310 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'll throw the GAL Monospar ST-25 on the table Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Messerschmitt 110 ? Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 0 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I know this is wrong but... Lockheed Model 10 Electra Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'm thinking I'm seeing the tip of third, center rudder bigger than the others, buy that may just be an over-active imagination. There's also something odd mounted on a trapeze arrangement under the port wing - suggesting a military version of something. I can't find anything with a strake next to the landing light like that. John Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Sorry to take so long to get answers out. I'm completely off the plot with you guys time-wise. John: No, not a Beech, Yes, military Brett: Sorry, not the Monospar Alan: No, not Herr Messerschmitt Dizzy: No, not Lockheed And here I thought this was too easy. Cheers, March Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'm really thinking it's a single engine. That landing light guard gives me the impression there is no engine between the pilots and the light. I know I'm wrong here but Ercoupe? Link to post Share on other sites
allardjd 1,853 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 March: No, not too easy... Dizzy: Not military, not a tail-dragger, no feature like that light visible in any photos I can find of it. John Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Way too big for an Ercoupe, sorry Dizzy. Keep at it! Cheers, March Link to post Share on other sites
Quickmarch 488 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Gosh John, I missed your comment to Dizzy. See the previous post: John, No not a beech, YES, MILITARY Another hint: definitely a tail-dragger Produced 1971 - 1973 It's time for another chunk of the photo. Let me change computers so I can add a photo to a post. Darn Crapple! I'll be back in a few and edit this post. After a few (beers), here's the edit...... Cheers, March Link to post Share on other sites
dodgy-alan 1,587 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Got it . It's the Swiss EKW C3605 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C-3605_no._C-494_%28HB-RDB%29_at_IBT%2711_on_the_tarmac.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
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